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Hagen, Susan submitted May 2002, revised February 2004
For those who don't know me, I am Susan Hagen. Im 49 years old, married for 24 years, divorced for 3 years. I live in the Shenandoah Valley of Virginia and work as a programmer for the state of Virginia at Western State Hospital. I share a household with five cats: Nickel and Hobbes, my two big Maine Coon boys, Catkin and Minou, two short haired gray girl cats, and Beau, a very handsome red tabby with a white shirt, mittens and a white pom-pom at the tip of his tail. Beau was my mothers cat until last spring when her Alzheimers disease forced a move to a nursing home. My mom died just before Christmas. That leaves just me, one sister and her husband for close family. It has been an exhausting year, shuttling back and forth to New England to visit and help with my mother. After her death I just shut down for a while and tried to sleep off the rest of the winter. As the days are getting longer I find Im surfacing though still blinking and looking around a little groggily.
I was baptized, raised and confirmed in the Lutheran church in Maryland. After a lapse of some years in church attendance and a move to New Hampshire, I re-connected with the Episcopal church there and was confirmed again. My ex-husband and I finally decided we couldnt face any more NH winters and moved back down to Virginia. Since 1993 I have been a member of Emmanuel Episcopal Church in Harrisonburg, Virginia. I just completed a 3 year term on the vestry. I am a lector and chalicist and fill in where needed for music though Im not singing regularly with the choir just now. We have just called a new rector and are eagerly waiting for her arrival just after Easter.
I suppose my spiritual seeking led me to the various generations of this List. The conversation and encouragement I found have helped me as Ive pursued some education and opportunities for ministry. Last spring I completed a two-year course in spiritual direction taught by Fr. Chester Michael, a Roman Catholic priest and all-round wonderful man. I have never thought of myself as a nurturing person and fretted over whether I was really called to do direction. God apparently got tired of my heel dragging and sent one person my way. Ive thrown my name into Fr. Chets pool of available directors and will see if God sends anyone else. I always figure the I am not worthy defense is at least worth a try. <gr>
I am now in my second year of Education for Ministry. This group is a joint effort between Emmanuel and our local Lutheran congregation. The course is wonderful and I highly recommend it to anyone interested in Bible study and theology.
I sing with a womens chorus, the Daughters of Song. It started six or seven years ago as a pick-up group called together to sing a Choral Evensong at Emmanuel. People liked it and weve done two concerts a year since. We do a little of everything written or arranged for treble voices, from early music to contemporary, sacred music and show tunes.
Gardening is one of my passions and Im a little obsessed with overhauling my yard. Ive done the really hard work of ridding it of 30 year old horrible shrubbery and dead trees. Last year I planted ornamental and fruit trees and a flowering English hedge. This year Ill plant an understory of native azaleas, viburnums, some other shrubbery, and another whole bed of shrub roses. I will natter endlessly about the details of this project to anyone who cares to listen.
My other great passion is books. Lately I seem to be dividing my time between spiritual reading and murder mysteries.
As for pub preferences, winter is for whiskey, single-malt scotch if someone well-heeled is buying, otherwise anything above the antifreeze grade. Beer and wine goes down well anytime and an occasional martini or Margarita is nice in the summer.
Halpert, Jane submitted April 2002
Been lurking, so I guess it's time.
I was born in 1952 in Washington DC, lived for varying lengths of time in Virginia, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York, and Michigan, and am now in Chicago, IL. I'm an Industrial/Organizational (I/O for short) psychologist, and a faculty member in the Psychology Department at DePaul University. I teach in the areas of personnel, group dynamics, and statistics, and am currently doing research on negotiation and conflict resolution, among other topics.
Been an Episcopalian since 1971 and am a member of Church of Our Saviour in Chicago. I'm also finishing up a stint on Diocesan Council, and am a member of a variety of diocesan committees.
No pets, due to allergies, else there would be cats sharing my life. I drive a 1986 Civic named Vashti, putter in the garden with varying degrees of success, read science fiction for fun, bake my own bread, and sing when the opportunity presents itself (like, in the shower). Unmarried and no children, but I proudly claim the title of Aunt Jane to Megan, Lauren, Spencer, Tyler, and soon Anya as well. Beer: I drink whatever's to hand, but only on hot summer afternoons, preferably watching a baseball game.
Handsfield, Jim, CSSP submitted April 2002
I'm a cradle Episcopalian, baptized and later confirmed by +James DeWolfe at the Cathedral of the Incarnation in Garden City, NY. I was a member of the Order of St Vincent - I guess I still am but haven't paid dues for God knows how many years.
Enough of history for now . . . maybe we can have a personal history thread after we've had a few.
I'm married to Marcy, and we have one son, my Wonderful Boy, Matthew, who's in fourth grade at Kittredge Magnet School for High Achievers.
We're members of St Bede's Atlanta where I serve as a lay eucharistic minister and lector, and play guitar and banjo at our folk masses (I really dislike that term - can anyone come up with a better one?). I'm also active on the Servant Community of the Atlanta Episcopal Cursillo Community, and currently am list owner of the two mailing lists associated with the AECC (one of which, AECCMail, is kindly hosted by SoAJ). I'll be giving that up pretty soon as Marcy and I are about to become the Registrars of the AECC.
For gainful employment, I'm a statistician at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.
Harnois, Michael D submitted September 2004
Greetings, all. I hope you will allow a new convert (very new, as in this week) to sit around and listen.
I was an ELCA pastor for 16 years. I've spent the last three years attending law school (bar results come out next week). My current plan is to establish a solo practice. At the same time, I hope to be received as a priest sometime in the next two years or so.
I was an ELCA synodical ecumenical representative for a total of about six years, in two different synods. I have been attracted to the Episcopal Church for 20 years or more, and probably should have made this move several years ago. The events that pushed me out of the ELCA (among them my strenuous and vocal opposition to the moves the ELCA made to appease Word Alone), although rather painful, I now see were for the best. I'm excited to be here and excited to be an Episcopalian at long last.
Hart, Christopher submitted April 2002, updated January 2004
I am a cradle Episcopalian, baptized and confirmed by +Oliver James Hart, Bishop of Pennsylvania, who just happened to be my grandfather.
Many years later, in my adult life, I am a lay member of the House of Deputies of ECUSA and serve on the Standing Committee of the Diocese of Pennsylvania. My parish is St Mary's in Wayne, Pennsylvania. Formerly, I attended the Church of the Good Shepherd in Rosemont, Pennsylvania for many years, leaving for more verdant pastures when it became apparent to me that my own ministry in the wider church was no longer compatible with membership at Good Shepherd. I still count many friends there, but do not agree with the stand that parish has taken vis-a-vis the diocese or the national church. I do, however, consider myself an Anglo-Catholic, but one who is fully supportive of the ministry of ordained women and the full participation of all persons in the life of the church regardless of sexual orientation.
I have lived most of my life (so far) in the Philadelphia area, but have some family connections in New England, principally Maine and Massachusetts, and spent a few years in Pittsburgh. While in Pittsburgh in the early 80's my wife and I mostly attended Trinity Cathedral. Lisa and I have been married for 25 years. We have two wonderful Siamese cats, but no human children.
I enjoy a quiet (compared to some others) but active participation in Magdalen's Rose and Compass. I very much enjoy meeting listsibs at actual pubs for verbal conversation and liquid refreshment.
Oh and I really prefer to be known as Christopher, rather than Chris.
Haugen, Alice submitted January 2006
A few of you may have noticed my recent occasional posts. This message is a brief introduction or re-introduction. Many of your names are familiar to me from a list we shared many years ago, when I posted as Alice Fulton. It is lovely to "see" you again!
I am a playpen Episcopalian, born in New York and now living in Iowa City. I have been a professor here for twenty-four years, and met my husband Tom Haugen here very soon after my arrival. We are delighted to share our lives with our daughter Frances (21 and a college senior) and son Peter (17 and a junior in high school). For over twenty years I was a practicing cell biologist, but recently gave up my lab because I could no longer support it.
I am also recently out of a seven year stint at administration, which has given me all the more respect for the full time administrators and a conviction that I am not built for that. In July when those responsibilities ended I switched to a half-time appointment at the university.
The other life transition that began in 2002 was the discernment process for ordination. Because we are a small diocese and were between bishops for a good part of it, that process went on in a good but slightly foggy way. Coming out of that process was my candidacy and then ordination as a deacon last April. I will be ordained a priest January 14 (so, yes, the ordination I wanted help with was my own). GOEs were an unparalleled experience, one I am grateful to have done (like Twain's classics, one of those things that no one wants to do but many are glad to have done).
Looking forward to many more conversations -
Hibbs, Frank submitted July 2011
I am a special education teacher at Lee High School in Tyler, Texas, and a Reader
at Christ Church, Tyler. I have been married to Penny for 17 years, I have a step-daughter who is 26 with 2 girls under 3; and a son
who is 15, and the apple of my eye.
I was a member of the pub several years ago and left when it became impossible to keep up with the number of posts, something that I know I shall have to do again when school begins next month.:-) In the meantime, I missed hearing from many of you, I enjoy hearing the news from around the world, and I actively pray for those for whom prayer is asked. It is truly good to "hear" some of your "voices" again!
I was raised in another faith tradition (Baptist) and entered the Episcopal Church while in college, under the influence of my friend and fellow medic, who was a priest's son, and my favorite history professor, who was a former Benedictine and the Vicar of the local Church. I am a bit of a Heinz 57, I am a sixth Cherokkee Indian on my Dad's side, and my Mom's Mom's family were Jewish converts to Christianity before the war between the states. Many of the people in Grandma's family were in deep denial of their roots as a result of the anti-semitism that they had endured, even after converting. They fled from Spain, ended up in England, converted and came to America. Even though they were assimilated, there was still a feeling of not fitting in, and of being looked down upon because of it. I hadn't realized that it was a hot-button issue with me until recently.
I work with special needs student who attend regular education classes. My job is to help facilitate this and to provide a safety net for them when things get too overwhelming for them. I love my job, especially because I get to see first-hand the little acts of kindness our general education students perform, they often go out of their way to make my students feel safe and welcomed. I get to see the Gospel lived out every school day.
Hitsman, Tony (a.k.a. Boom-Boom, 'cuz he's a Canon) submitted August 2002, updated January 2004
I am a priest in the Diocese of Quebec, Canada, ordained 1981/82, both in Thunder Bay, Ontario, in the Diocese of Algoma; born and raised in Ottawa, Ontario. After Thunder Bay, was appointed to the Sturgeon Falls Cluster Ministry, between North Bay and Sudbury, where I served for nine years. I then moved to the Diocese of Moosonee where I lived on a native Cree - Objiway reservation and served a shared Anglican - United Church Ministry for five years.
In 1995 I began my present appointment on the Lower North Shore of the Gulf of St Lawrence, Quebec. This appointment ended in 2002 as I then went on long term disability.
My early years were spent in the United Church of Canada, and in the summers I was in turn camper, counsellor, and Chaplain, at Woodland Camp on the Ottawa River, run jointly by the United Church of Canada and the Ottawa Boys Club. It was at this Camp in the 1950's and during Evening Vespers that I first perceived a calling to ministry of some kind
Two major achievements in my life in the past few years were working on the re-publication of my father's best-selling The Incredible War of 1812, and helping with the new Canons and Constitutions presented and carried at our Diocesan Synod in the Gaspe' a few years back.
Growing up, I had been the primary care giver for my father, injured during WWII but whom became more severely restricted in his mobility in the 1950's. The combination of care giving and working at a church camp and involvement in church activities all had their effect on me and I knew from an early age that this would find expression in ministry, even though from birth I have been very severely speech and hearing impaired.
I am classified as legally disabled. But, as in my father's case, this became a motivation for me to strive and work harder to survive in life.
I'm going to live on the Lower North Shore for a while and enjoy the scenery, fresh air, quiet, and scattering wildflower seed in some of the more barren areas in summer, and skidooing up and down the coast in winter.
Nice to be here, and to continue friendships with many from other Anglican lists. I'm always up for listmeets if I'm in the area.
Hollingsworth, Kirk submitted March 2005
I'm a non-cradle Episcopalian who has been on and off many Episcopal/Anglican Email lists for the past 10 or 15 years, mainly with the old Anglican/St. Sams list. The dictionary I wrote for St. Sams is still visible(as is a photo of me on another part of the site): I occasionally get questions or additions to it suggested, which I routinely pass on to Cynthia McFarland.
For the past 35 years I've worshiped at St. Luke in the Fields in Greenwich Village: for most of the decade before that, I sang in a professional choir at Church of the Resurrection on the Upper East Side in Manhattan; involvement in the high church liturgy there was a factor in my conversion from agnosticism to Christianity in its Anglican form. I was Treasurer of St. Luke's for a decade, and was involved with the church in many ways. Perhaps the most interesting and involving was 10 years on the Ministries Committee: St. Luke's sponsored five or six eventual priests during this period. Nowadays I do little except occasional taking of communion to an elderly neighbor.
I was for 30 years a marketing research manager for a packaged goods company (Lever Brothers), retiring in 1985. During this time, I took up organ playing, and with a dozen years of lessons, and practicing 1-4 hours a day, I managed to convert by brute force a very meager keyboard talent into a semblance of activity as a semi-professional organist. When I retired, I took on the job of organist at Trinity Church, Oak Bluffs on Martha's Vineyard: Trinity is the oldest and largest of the three Episcopal churches on the Vineyard, but is the only one which is purely a summer church. It serves, among other communities, a large and since the publication of The Emperor of Ocean Park very well-known, African-American community, and has (or had then) an evenly divided black and white congregation and Board of Trustees. My predecessor, for 25 years or so, was David Hewlett, who had been Dean of the NYC AGO, so it was a church with reasonable music expectations. I had no choir, though, and didn't try to start one: even though I've done a fair amount of choral conducting, my keyboard work is sufficiently un-fluent to preclude conducting from an organ manual. I kept the Trinity job for ten years, using the winters to prepare for the summer services (I'm VERY slow work...). We left the Vineyard, though, in 1995, and except for a very few early services at St. Luke's (Easter I, Christmas 1 kind of thing) I've not played the organ since. (My current keyboard instrument is a digital harpsichord, mainly because I don't have to tune it. Having built and played two real ones [one is still in use at St. Luke's], I can do it, but would just as soon not to have to.) I'm currently focussing on teaching myself classical guitarvery slowly.
Some of you who know me from previous lists knew by mail (and in some cases personally) my wife of 30 years, Jeanne. She died early in 01, after four years of a very rare and totally incurable lung disease. I remarried toward the end of the year: a woman whom I'd known at St. Luke's for over 30 years and with whom Jeanne and I had socialized when both spouses were alive. She and I started rather cautiously to explore some kind of companionship, and suddenly found ourselves deeply in love. We still are, and it's an incredible gift at our age (77 and 73).
Lee is an ex English Lit prof who has done acting and even directing (she has a 3-year MFA from Yale as well as the later PhD from NYU), and was for a number of years Events Manager up at the Cathedral of St. John the Divine during Jim Morton's tenure there as Dean. (When I met Morton a few years ago, I was diverted to find that he and I had not only been classmates at Harvard, but spent three years in the same house, Eliot House, without ever knowing each other. Big world...) When Lee and I started going together, she had been working for years as a bookseller at the big Barnes & Noble in Chelsea: her boss was clearly terrified she'd lose her to my (then) total retirement, and talked me into trying it. I love it: we work four 8-hour days a week, and there's enough really physical work (quite a lot) to be good at our age, as well as the fun of selling books to people. Lee is the doyenne of the fiction operation, and I've become the local expert on history. (Which is oddpurely a result of middle aged self-education: I managed to get through school and college with no history after 410 AD, and I've been repairing the omission ever since.) It's a fun place to work: we have a bunch of really nice kids (mostly actors), plus some interesting older people. The religion section (along with, oddly, Sports and Humor and Performing Arts) is headed up by an elderly Dominican friar, and the Information desk is presided over by young woman who is considering becoming a rabbi, and a banker who spent most of his professional life in Southeast Asia. It doesn't pay much, but it's a lot of fun, and (best of all) unlike the jobs I had most of my life one doesn't take it home with one after 4:30.
Lee has a history of constant foreign travel for vacations (she worked for several years in Vienna during the Russian occupation), so I'm into that for the first time in my life. We went to China for a honeymoon (it was supposed to be pre-wedding, but the original version of the tour was scheduled for September 12!). The following year we spent three weeks in France: we were lined up to have lunch with Bp. Pierre Whalon (I don't know if he's at Maddy's Pub these days) , but had to bail out because Lee got ill. Three weeks in Italy in '03, followed by a two week trip to South Africa in the fall of '04 with fifteen St. Luke's people. (St. Luke's has a companion parish down there, and they visited us a couple of years ago.) We have a trip to France scheduled for late May (of '05): fly to Nice, take a boat up the Rhone for ten days, and then finish with four days in Paris. We had thought that a recent bout with breast cancer (lumpectomy, 16 weeks of biweekly chemotherapy starting early March of '05, followed by three months of radiation) might put paid to the trip, but our oncologist is very much in favor of it, and at this writing the chemo is going well (two treatments) with no appreciable nausea.
We live quietly in Greenwich Village (conveniently, at our age, right across the street from St. Vincent's Hospital), but are planning to retire in a few years to a retirement community run by the Diocese of Western North Carolina near Asheville.
Hunt, Bryan Link Manning submitted January 2004
I'm Zim, and it's all Zim's fault. (Zim, a.k.a., Troignipen, a.k.a., Bryan) that is how many of the list folk will remember me. But I guess you had to be there. That was back in the Anglican at American University days.
I don't really know when I started lurking in Maggie's Pub. I tend to find a safe, comfortable, and slightly dark corner where I pull up a piece of the floor. It may seem strange to newcomers, but people who know me from way back especially in the meat world as well as cyberia recognize this as something that I just do. Since Christmas, however, I seem to have been de-lurking a bit. And now that there are pictures of flowers appearing next to bio's, it seems that an intro is appropriate.
First the now. Dan and I live in Le Mans, France, (yes, the race car place) where we have been since September of 2003. He took a position as a teaching assistant that means that he teaches English to 11 and 12 year old kids and I came along for the ride. I do not have a work permit, and French is a brand new thing for me, so I have become the domestic partner, cooking and doing that type of stuff while Dan earns the money. We will probably be here through the end of the 2004/5 school year. I have just passed the TExAS exams (junior and high school math) for certification as a teacher in the state of Texas. I would love to be teaching while I am here in France, and had hoped to apply to teach at the American School in Paris it is about an hour's commute from Le Mans. Unfortunately, it seems that a work visa is one of their prerequisites. (If you know otherwise, or of any school in France which would like someone to teach junior high or high school math in English, let me know, please.)
Second, the future. If I can't get a job teaching here in France, than Dan and I will need to return to the States for the academic year 2005/6. But of course, god often has surprises in store for us that we haven't planned.
Third, the immediate past. For the last couple of years, Dan and I lived in Weslaco, Texas. During that time, I was doing the coursework for my teacher certification in mathematics basically I took the math, logic, and computer classes which would have been required for an undergraduate degree in mathematics at the University of Texas, Pan American, in Edinburg. Dan was completing the course work for a master's degree in History. When we met (at Grace Episcopal Church in Weslaco) Dan was a math teacher he had come to the Valley with Teach For America. After much discussion, we decided that to take a year off and live in France before settling down in a new place with new jobs rather than working a couple of years to save up for it and of course, not being able to take of then for more than a month.
Forth, the slightly more distant past how I got to Texas. I am, of course, a Texan, born and bred to native Texans, and reared in Texas. But I had been out of the state for a very long time, and quite honestly, my family (of origin) and I had grown apart. (There was even an exorcism involved. While I was in seminary, they were being born again. They left the Episcopal church. During the same time that they were becoming conservative evangelicals, I was discovering the social gospel and post-modernism.) I was at a point in my life where I wanted a career change, and it seemed to me that going to Texas to go back to school, would be a good way to reconnect with them as well as face many issues that I needed to "go home" to where my grandmother had just died, to the diocese that had sent me to seminary, to my family of origin, etc. in order to face.
And fifth, before that. I'm a life-long Episcopalian. I was baptized and confirmed at St Johns, Sonora, Diocese of West Texas. Aside from my parents, Fr. Bill Fritz was probably the single greatest influence on my life in Sonora. I attended the University of Texas (in Austin) where I received a BA in Economics. I then went to Virginia Seminary where I received an MTS; my thesis was on computational linguistics and the Greek new testament. When I went to seminary, I thought I was called to be a priest. Somewhere in the process of seminary, I realized that I no longer had any model of god which I could believe in or share with others. Resigning my postulancy and switching from the M.Div. program to the MTS program seemed the thing to do. After seminary I moved to Baltimore, Maryland (about an hour up the road from seminary) where I first worked at a book store, then substitute taught, became a Spanish Teacher, ran a small desk-top publishing firm, and worked in book stores again. Interspersed with all that were periods of major depression, quitting jobs, hiding under beds, not having a place to live, the ups and downs of antidepressants and therapy, buying a house, and being on the old Anglican list as well as the Different Christianities list which was modeled around the idea of a living room where everyone was welcomed as long as they could be respectful in presenting their positions.
I'm afraid that this became quite a bit longer than I had intended, but probably it is shorter than some of my old list mates could have imagined.
Hutchinson, Sr. Sandra submitted April 2002
Let's see. I'm a Boston resident, working at a custom textbook firm as a proofreading supervisor. (I can't believe that I lucked out so and found a job where they pay me to read all day.) I've found my niche and my vocation, and even though it gets lunatic hectic during our summer crunch. I love it.
I live at and attend St Luke's and St Margaret's Church in Allston, where I'm a vestry member/acolyte/member of the Christian ed committee/newsletter editor/general dogsbody.
For fun, I write science fiction/fantasy/horror/mysteries and have even had a few pieces published. I adore Buffy.
I've made a good start on an M.Div. (with a concentration in urban ministry) at the local evangelical seminary, even though I don't plan to be ordained. (Everybody ought to have a hobby.)
I'm a member of an ecumenical, inclusive, nontraditional, nonresidential Franciscan community called the Mercy of God Communityand this summer I'll be taking my first vows after this year of being a novice. I'm also the newletter editor there.
Not very long from now (May 12) I'll be going to Israel as part of a group travelling from the diocese. We hope to talk to a wide range of people, to see for ourselves the results of the conflict, and perhaps even provide support to those who are seeking a just peace.
Hutchinson, Susan submitted January 2004, revised March 2005
I'm the "other" Susan (not Buchanan) and the "other" Hutchinson (not Sandra). I am the Canuckly Susan, a priest in the Diocese of Quebec and the diocesan program officer. I also serve as priest-in-charge of the Parish of the Mauricie (Trois Rivieres, Grand'Mere and LaTouque) and have community development responsibilities for a non-profit health and social services agency. I live in Quebec City, a little bit of old Europe in North America. I recently moved here from my first parish, in the Gaspé, where I was co-rector and rural dean. I've been a member of various incarnations of Anglican lists since early 1994 and have been lucky enough to meet face to face with many listmembers over the years including the great 1997 Toronto listmeet when 37 listsibs met, ate, drank and worshipped together.
I'm a cradle Anglican, brought up in a military family. I was born in Moose Jaw, Saskatchewan, but baptized, confirmed and ordained to the diaconate in the Diocese of Toronto variously in 1955, 1990 and 2000. There were many moves in between and I suspect I hold a list record for the number of high schools I attended 5, in two provinces and three countries.
I have a degree in Political Science and History from the University of Victoria and an MDiv from Trinity College and the University of Toronto. I finally figured out what I wanted to be when I grew up in 1992, after a rather revelatory conversation with my then new boss, a Canadian federal cabinet minister. He made it possible for me to start my degree at Trinity and enter the process for ordination in 1993. It took a little time, a lot of frustration and every bit of cash I had, but here I am, celebrating 5 years of ordination (both diaconal and priestly) and moving into a new adventure, loving my vocation.
I loved my parish, where I was able to work with some wonderful people on projects near and dear to my heart the day and residential camp program, first for our parish and latterly for the diocese and a large community development project for the English speaking community here. Now I am moving on, taking with me all of the things I have done here into my new appointment. It should be a real challenge as this not very able French speaker moves into an area even more French speaking than Gaspé.
I'm single, have two wonderful cat companions Jamie, the tortoiseshell British tabby and Katjev, the marmalade Asian tabby, and enjoy reading mysteries and needlework in my spare time and am starting to do a bit of photography oh, yes, and then there is the computer, my lovely iMac. :-)
My favourite flowers are many and wild, but I choose black-eyed Susans. One summer, as I was driving along the highway in my home province of Saskatchewan, I noticed that they edged the highway for miles and miles, persistent and sturdy, growing up each summer after fearful cold and windblown winters, following the road, journeying on small, not particularly obvious, but there always. I decided then that they would be my "badge", if a 21st century woman priest can have a medieval "badge". :-)
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