On 02/12/2014 22:17, Jay Weigel wrote: > Most days this time of year it starts getting dark here before 5 pm, > especially rainy, dreary days like today. I detest this kind of weather and > this time of year. *grump* Official sunset today was 3.52 p.m. Being further North than you gives us longer days in the Summer bit shorter in the winter. Roger