[Magdalen] testing w/ a new ISP

[James Oppenheimer-Crawford]

Aside from James Guthrie, I wonder if any others were on the Prodigy site.
What a bunch that was.

James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things better
for people coming behind you, and you don’t do it, you're wasting your time
on this Earth.”  -- *Roberto Clemente

On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 12:45 AM, Molly Wolf <lupa at kos.net> wrote:

> I joined in September 1995.  I remember Susan Urbach (still a friend) was
> recovering from being severely injured in the OKC bombing.
>
> I became a writer on the Anglican list; I remember the Ratbag Picnic by
> the River (still my image of Heaven) and the formation of St. Sam's.  I had
> List members at my wedding and at my mother's funeral (the Wolfmama, who
> adored and was adored by the community).  I remember grieving for our
> losses -- Mary Jane Anderson, Mark Emory Graham, Carol Marsh, Matt Tracy
> (the Muttster, Admiral of Texas), Andrew Auld (Mudge, short for
> curmudgeon), the beautiful Cynthia McFarland, and the inimitable Debele --
> Deb Bly, who died about this time two years ago. And others, as well.
>
> I still remember the joy and love, the battles, the Listmeets, the bitter
> quarrels, the rants (remember Bearded Bill, Jim?) and about a gazillion
> prayer requests.  I still download my email in hope of hearing from my
> listsibs.
>
> And I still have a coffee mug with the Flying Crozier and St, Sam's motto:
> via media via modem.
>
> Molly
>
> The man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no
> other way. -- Mark Twain
>
> > On Dec 10, 2014, at 12:26 AM, Jon Egger <revegger at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, Jim, thank you for that history.  I agree with you, Christopher,
> that
> > this is my cyber home pub.
> >
> > My wish is that more lurkers post.  We're good company, but it would be
> > awesome to hear more voices in the pub.
> >
> >
> > +++
> > Grace & peace,
> > jon
> >
> >
> >> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Christopher Hart <cervus51 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for this history lesson, Jim. It is exactly what recall knowing,
> >> although I was never on Anglican-L and only marginally on St. Sams. My
> >> first real participation (other than the Bishops/Deputies list that
> Louie
> >> Crew created) was on St. Bedes. Coincidentally it was
> >> Louie who introduced me to that list. When it began to collapse someone
> >> (Raewynne Whiteley, I think) pointed me to Magdalen for which I have
> been
> >> eternally grateful. This is my cyber home pub.
> >>
> >> On Tuesday, December 9, 2014, James Handsfield <jhandsfield at icloud.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Access to the pub was never by invitation or application only.  It’s
> just
> >>> that we were small and didn’t broadcast that we were there.
> >>>
> >>> Maybe it’s time to recite some of the history.
> >>>
> >>> As most remember, it all started with Anglican-L hosted by American
> >>> University.  Charles Smith was the owner operator.
> >>>
> >>> When American University decided to no longer host Anglican-L, Charles
> >>> started up his own ISP, Dragon.com <http://dragon.com/>, and created
> St.
> >>> Sam’s.  As has been noted, there were some difficulties with the
> >>> management, and St. Bede’s was created, this time with a ‘vestry’ to
> >> govern
> >>> the list.  The problem was that the vestry members came from all over,
> >> and
> >>> rarely were they all on line at the same time.
> >>>
> >>> That, too, descended to having a lot of petty scraps, and when it
> looked
> >>> like the list was going to fail, several of us (Molly Wolf, Mary Jane
> >>> Anderson of blessed memory, Gillian Barr, and I decided to set up a new
> >>> list.  After a lot of discussion we chose the concept of a pub.  Tony
> >>> Clavier provided the Anglican underpinnings for us, and we decided to
> >> name
> >>> it Magdalen’s Rose and Compass, Magdalen being George Herbert’s mother,
> >> and
> >>> the compass from the Anglican Communion logo.
> >>>
> >>> Molly paid a small amount for a server that Brian Reid set up for us.
> He
> >>> also guided us in the best ways to operate an email list, and following
> >> his
> >>> guidance we created the publican system with three publicans (Mary
> Jane,
> >>> Gillian, and me - Molly opted out).  Each publican would have equal
> >>> authority although I took the title of publican with Mary Jane and
> >> Gillian
> >>> taking the titles of assistant publicans.  In reality we were equals.
> >>>
> >>> We never looked to be a large list, but one where no topic was
> >> proscribed,
> >>> but where any discussion would be carried out respectfully, following
> the
> >>> statement derived from the Baptismal Covenant:  Strive for justice and
> >>> peace among all people and respect the dignity of every human being.
> >> That
> >>> turned out to be a pretty good formula.  We had our trials from time to
> >>> time, but Maddies has remained a safe place to stop in, have a libation
> >> of
> >>> one’s choice, and there the company.
> >>>
> >>> Chad and Sally are doing an excellent job of maintaining the list with
> >>> their own ways that they’ve developed.
> >>>
> >>> -------------------------------------
> >>> Education is its own reward, both for the individual and for society.
> >>>
> >>> Jim Handsfield
> >>> jhandsfield at att.net <javascript:;>
> >>>
> >>>> On Dec 9, 2014, at 9:15 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com
> >>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Then someone told me about Maddie's, which at that point was by
> >>> invitation or application only.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> Christopher Hart
> >>
> >> List Mail Address: cervus51 at gmail.com
> >> Personal Mail: cervus at veritasliberat.net
> >> Twitter: @cervus51
> >>
>