[Magdalen] EC v. ED of Ft. Worth

[Charles Wohlers]

What I meant was, as far as South Carolina is concerned, nothing has 
changed.

Chad Wohlers
still @ TPA
Woodbury, VT USA
chadwohl at satucket.com



-----Original Message----- 
From: Roy Murphy
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 4:56 PM
To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] EC v. ED of Ft. Worth

Last week there was an appeal pending. This week the TX decision is final.

On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 2:39 PM, Charles Wohlers <charles.wohlers at verizon.net
> wrote:

> The fact that the Supreme Court refused to hear the case simply means
> that, whatever the situation was last week, it's the same this week -
> nothing has changed.
>
> Chad Wohlers
> @ TPA right now, but soon back in
> Woodbury, VT USA
> chadwohl at satucket.com
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Ginga Wilder
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 1:16 PM
> To: Magdalen
>
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] EC v. ED of Ft. Worth
>
> This USSC decision to reject the case will mark the path forward for
> TECSC.  And, we in new missions and worshipping communities now know that
> we won’t have our buildings back anytime soon, if at all.  That fact will
> be hard for some to grasp, but I do believe it is the truth.   As I have
> thought all along, these cases will not be settled in my lifetime.
>
>
>
> Very sad, and all Episcopalians must grieve our loss, and then create a 
> new
> faith community, looking forward, rather than hold to the stuff of the
> past.  That is my opinion.  History will happen, and at some point in the
> more distant future, the Lawrence church may fail and their buildings, 
> etc.
> may have to be sold.
>
>
> In these days of a dwindling TEC, not having the burden of upkeep of old
> buildings may be a gift to fledgling congregation.  I do still want the
> intellectual and real diocesan (not parish) property returned sooner 
> rather
> than later.
>
>
>
> Ginga
>
> On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Charles Wohlers <
> charles.wohlers at verizon.net> wrote:
>
>  I believe it means they refused to hear the case, meaning the lower court
>> ruling stands.
>>
>> Chad Wohlers
>> about to head back North from sunny Florida,
>> Woodbury, VT USA
>> chadwohl at satucket.com
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Grace Cangialosi
>> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 10:18 AM
>> To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] EC v. ED of Ft. Worth
>>
>> I'm sorry, but I don't know what this means.
>>
>>  On Nov 3, 2014, at 9:51 AM, Roy Murphy <roy.murphy at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Cert denied. :(
>>>
>>>  On Mon, Nov 3, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> OK.  It's 9:30 am.  What's the story....yes, that is a ridiculous
>>>> inquiry.
>>>> But, members of TECSC are among those waiting on this decision. If USSC
>>>> takes the case and iff USSC decides on behalf of TEC, this will have
>>>> enormous impact on the South Carolina case.  I don't much care about
>>>> parish
>>>> real property issues, but I do indeed want our name, our symbols, our
>>>> trust
>>>> fund, our camp and conference center, our diocesan property ETC 
>>>> returned
>>>> to
>>>> Episcpalians.  Others in TECSC sincerely are invested in having the
>>>> parish
>>>> properties.
>>>>
>>>> SC awaits the decision of Circuit Court Judge Diane Goodstein in the
>>>> lawsuit where Bp Lawrence and his breakaway church is suing TEC and
>>>> TECSC.
>>>>
>>>> Ginga
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Sun, Nov 2, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Roy Murphy <roy.murphy at gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Did I say 11/1? Tomorrow at 9:30. My guess is that it gets relisted 
>>>>> for
>>>>> another conference. That has been their recent practice.
>>>>>
>>>>>  On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Roy Murphy <roy.murphy at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  The Supreme Court docket says the case was distributed for the 10/31
>>>>>
>>>>>> conference. We could hear further news on 11/1. Either grant, deny or
>>>>>> relist.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>