[Magdalen] Episcopal News Service highlights Episcopal Church in South Carolina

Ginga Wilder gingawilder at gmail.com
Sun Nov 30 18:42:18 UTC 2014


Hi Sally,

Your questions are best answered by the Archbishop of Canterbury in the
first 6 inutes of interview linked below.  I have included the first topics
he covered in the interview.  I gather that for some in the Pub who are not
on the ground in SC, deciphering The Episcopal Church in SC's
(TECSC)relationship with The Episcopal Church (TEC - no longer known as
ECUSA since there are several non-domestic Provinces).  Let me reiterate
that TEC that TECSC is a member diocese of TEC; ++ Katherine Jefferts
Schori is our Presiding Bishop.  She installed our Provisional Bishop,
+Charles vonRosenberg.

The ABC is very clear in the linked interview that ACNA and other breakaway
Anglican churches are different denominations and are not part of the
Anglican Communion.

And, of course, TEC is the The US member of the official Anglician
Communion.  These are facts that seem to be quite confusing.

http://www.coigazette.net/?page_id=2004

ORDER & TIMING OF TOPICS

*The Anglican Communion, 00:00-02:22;*
*Anglicans/Episcopalians in North America, 02:22-04.45;**The Lambeth
Conference, 04:45-05:40;*

Blessings,
Ginga Wilder
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 7:36 AM, Sally Davies <sally.davies at gmail.com>
wrote:

> What will happen when events take place that involve the entire ECUSA, or
> for that matter the Communion? Who would be invited to attend Lambeth if it
> does take place - both Bishops?
>
> Actions are louder than words...
>
> Perhaps, numerically, the centre of gravity of our Church is moving
> Southwards. Our rector mentioned in his sermon today (a fairly standard
> Evangelical take on the Second Coming), that Nigeria currently has more
> Anglican Church members than the rest of the Communion put together. Whilst
> we all know the church there is massive, that sounded a bit of a stretch
> but all the same, it does suggest a sea-change in the Communion.
>
> As an African Anglican I hope and pray that the centre will hold and
> embrace the different strains of belief but with modern communications I
> guess that's becoming more of a challenge every passing year.
>
> Sally D
>
> On Friday, 28 November 2014, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Roger,
> > Thank you.  You have done your research well.  I so appreciate your
> > interest.
> >
> > The Episcopal Diocese of SC (Mark Lawrence's church...the breakaway
> group)
> > did indeed get a restraining order in January 2013, preventing use of the
> > diocesan name (see what the Lawrence church calls itself) by the
> > Episcopalians, who were regrouping/reorganizing in special Convention at
> > the time.  So, we chose the name 'The Episcopal Church in SC (TECSC).
> The
> > trial was held in July, 2014, and we may hear the decision early in
> > December.  The Episcopal Church and TECSC do not expect the decision to
> be
> > favorable for Episcopalians.
> >
> > TECSC has 30 parishes and missions now, five of which became new missions
> > in the last year (two Conventions).
> >
> > Ginga
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 27, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Roger Stokes <
> > roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com <javascript:;>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > On 27/11/2014 22:04, James Oppenheimer-Crawford wrote:
> > >
> > >> So there are two dioceses there also.
> > >>
> > >> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> > >>
> > >
> > > There is what is termed the Episcopal Diocese of South Carolina with
> Mark
> > > Lawrence as their bishop.  The latest state of court judgements is that
> > > they are entitled to retain use of that description, the diocesan
> shield,
> > > etc.  The other group is called the Episcopal Church in South Carolina.
> > > They are the group listed on the Episcopal Church's website.  If you
> > browse
> > > that site by diocese you will come to
> > > http://www.episcopalchurch.org/diocese/south-carolina and their
> > > Provisional Bishop is Charles vonRosenberg.
> > >
> > > I know Ginga has to be very careful about what she writes and there are
> > > various orders in place barring the group who look to +Charles as their
> > > bishop and +Katharine as their Primate from doing anything that might
> > > suggest they are the real Diocese of South Carolina.  I tried to be
> > careful
> > > in what I said when I was there but I am grateful to +Charles who,
> after
> > > consulting my own bishop, gave me permission to preside and preach at
> the
> > > Eucharist in Summerville as an expression of the Worldwide Anglican
> > > Communion.
> > >
> > > Roger
> > >
> >
>


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