[Magdalen] your ongoing prayers, please

[Heather Angus]

Oh, Marion, this is even worse. I hope you have a good lawyer and a mean
one!

Heather

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 2:49 PM, Clarissa Canning <canplum at gmail.com> wrote:

> prayer always
>
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 9:59 AM, Marion Thompson <marionwhitevale at gmail.com
> >
> wrote:
>
> > Yes, current family law supports all that you have said and all that
> > number crunching has been done.  The evil X factor in my situation is the
> > agreement that was signed in Nov 1991.  We had been living together 10
> > years, we both worked at  U of T (Jim as a full professor) .  Jim thought
> > we'd have "a happier healthier life" in the country and we bought this
> > house.  He put up the down payment and, as I understood it, I signed this
> > agreement that he worked out with our lawyer friend to protect his  stake
> > in the house.  Fair enough.  Now, Our lawyer, not My lawyer, was a
> trusted
> > good friend, Colonel of the Regiment and all that, and we were in his
> > living room having a scotch while we did this business.  Verbal review of
> > the contents.  Sign sign sign Have a drink.  Of course in the cold hard
> > light of day farther down in the document what the agreement also says is
> > that, should the relationship break down for any reason including death,
> > neither party will pay or claim support from the other.
> >
> > This is the crux of the matter.  They claim this agreement is valid, we
> > claim it is not for a whole whack of reasons.  If its validity is held
> up,
> > too bad, so sad.  We have done horse-trading, but always with his
> position
> > moving farther away from acceptable until now this.
> >
> > As a personal conundrum, to me there was a world of change in state
> > between   knocking around and living together (never a pooling of
> > resources) for a total of 20 years and moving into marriage.   I meant
> what
> > I vowed.  In the ceremony how we all laughed at 'for richer for poorer'
> and
> > 'with all my wordly goods I thee endow'. Hey-ho!
> >
> > Two lessons from this:  Take nothing for granted and read the fine print.
> > And ALWAYS have your own lawyer to look out for your interests, even if
> you
> > are certain your friends, however close or loved, are trustworthy.
> > Maybe three:  Never be reluctant to talk.  Communicate!!! and insist that
> > the other talk and communicate truthfully.
> >
> > Sorry, people,  if this is too much information.  Talk is my therapy.
> >  Feel free to delete.
> >
> > Marion, a pilgrim
> >
> >
> > On 10/8/2014 7:34 PM, Molly Wolf wrote:
> >
> >> In Ontario. You are entitled to half of the common assets, including
> half
> >> of the value of the matrimonial home, half his pension, and half of
> >> anything he's salted away since your marriage.  He is entitled to half
> of
> >> your pension, etc.  Each of you lists what you've got, and then it's
> horse
> >> trading:  you get to keep the house, he gets to keep (some of) his
> pension,
> >> etc., until the property held in common (which means pretty much
> everything
> >> acquired since your marriage) ends up 50-50.  So don't fret.  He may
> >> propose an unequal split, but you don't have to accept it.
> >>
> >> Have you got a separation agreement, or is this what you're negotiating?
> >>
> >> Molly
> >>
> >> The man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in
> no
> >> other way. -- Mark Twain
> >>
> >>  On Oct 8, 2014, at 3:14 PM, Marion Thompson <marionwhitevale at gmail.com
> >
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Time will tell!  We have maintained a very civil facade, never ever
> >>> mentioning the legal stuff, but on Nov. 4 we both have to appear in
> court
> >>> at some information session where we are told how everything works.  I
> >>> guess the camel will truly be in the tent after that.
> >>>
> >>> Marion, a pilgrim
> >>>
> >>>> On 10/8/2014 12:16 PM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> In a message dated 10/8/2014 12:02:03 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> >>>> mcepeda514 at gmail.com writes:
> >>>>
> >>>> divorce  when it is easy. My prayers......>>>
> >>>>   Is it ever easy?
> >>>>   I thought mine would be easy since it was simply deciding on
> >>>> the details of a 50-50 split.  We were on fairly amicable  speaking
> >>>> terms, and I thought we were out of the woods.
> >>>>   Then my ex was referred by a mutual "friend" (actually the wife of
> >>>> one of my fellow dermatology residents) to a person I later found
> >>>> out defined the word,"misandry".  This "advisor" radicalized my
> >>>> ex to the point that conversation was impossible, and it was through
> >>>> lawyers (at $150 a crack) that even the simplest communication
> >>>> occurred.
> >>>>   I do hope things are better for you.
> >>>>     David Strang - 30 years divorced and counting.
> >>>>
> >>> .
> >>
> >>
> >
>