[Magdalen] Texas was / Re: EC v. ED of Ft. Worth

Tue Oct 21 16:16:22 UTC 2014

and while filibustering in the TX state house, there is no sitting, no 
leaning on furniture, no potty breaks either... unlike the 'creative' way 
the US government has redesigned filibustering in recent years... now, I 
think people don't even have to be there....

Lynn

website: www.ichthysdesigns.com

When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not a 
single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me." 
attributed to Erma Bombeck

Thomas Merton writes, “People may spend their whole lives climbing the 
ladder of success only to find, once they reach the top, that the ladder is 
leaning against the wrong wall.”

"What you seek is seeking you." - Rumi

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From: "Roland Orr" <roland at orr55.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 11:07 AM
To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Texas was / Re: EC v. ED of Ft. Worth

> Very comfortable!
> Roland
>
>
>
> On 21/10/2014 17:04, Jay Weigel wrote:
>> Roland, it's because during her 13 1/2 hour filibuster (a remarkable feat
>> in itself) against a restrictive anti-abortion law the Texas legislature
>> was attempting to pass--and eventually did, but not on that occasion--she
>> wore pink running shoes.
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 12:00 PM, Roland Orr <roland at orr55.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Wendy-pink-shoes - could she not wear blue shoes?
>>> Any more info??
>>> Roland
>>> UK
>>> who attended Ike's first election
>>>
>>>
>>> On 21/10/2014 16:01, Lynn Ronkainen wrote:
>>>
>>>> (regarding different states)
>>>>
>>>> As a resident of TX, I am ever mindful that it is not easy to just 'up
>>>> and move', when the state one lives in becomes an anathema to one's
>>>> self...  It is near impossible to distance one's self from the 
>>>> governmental
>>>> policies enshrined under our current governor of 14 years. I'm voting 
>>>> early
>>>> (and I wish often <g>) this week but the possibility of changing 
>>>> leadership
>>>> parties in this state, in this election cycle, is doubtful.
>>>>
>>>> Those who must be obeyed keep chanting that the 'majority' of Texans 
>>>> did
>>>> this or that (voted this way or that way), but in fact only 18% of our
>>>> population voted in the last general election! Our policies do not 
>>>> really
>>>> represent the 'will' of the people, but sadly, I don't see it changing 
>>>> much
>>>> either. It is my hope that as people rush here for jobs, and we do have
>>>> them and that is happening, that they bring a different social
>>>> consciousness with them and slowly turn things around.
>>>>
>>>> My real fear is that if the current Attorney General (second in command
>>>> to governor) is elected governor, the same old, same old will just 
>>>> escalate
>>>> here - the only problem is that our state government is truly a case of 
>>>> the
>>>> Emperor's new state/new clothes, and I'm not sure how many more years 
>>>> it
>>>> can sustain itself without substance, and without imploding.
>>>>
>>>> Wendy-pink-shoes is very probably not going to get elected, but I can
>>>> hope. And vote.
>>>>
>>>> Lynn
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>>>>
>>>> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have
>>>> not a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You 
>>>> gave
>>>> me." attributed to Erma Bombeck
>>>>
>>>> Thomas Merton writes, “People may spend their whole lives climbing the
>>>> ladder of success only to find, once they reach the top, that the 
>>>> ladder is
>>>> leaning against the wrong wall.”
>>>>
>>>> "What you seek is seeking you." - Rumi
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Jay Weigel" <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2014 8:58 AM
>>>> To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>>>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] EC v. ED of Ft. Worth
>>>>
>>>>   Um, Grace, that's the case in SC.
>>>>> Sometimes I think the solution for Texas is to pull all our federal 
>>>>> funds
>>>>> and military bases, build a fence on the northern border, secede from
>>>>> them,
>>>>> and offer unconditional amnesty to all Texans wishing to be in the 
>>>>> real
>>>>> U.S. of A. /snark off
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Roy Murphy <roy.murphy at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   The title of the case is odd from our point of view. It is TEC v. 
>>>>> Jack
>>>>>> Iker
>>>>>> et al. I believe the titling of the case was changed by the Iker
>>>>>> faction in
>>>>>> the appeals process.
>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2014 11:09 PM, "Grace Cangialosi" <gracecan at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm still confused. You said the conservatives 'left, wanting to 
>>>>>>> take
>>>>>>> everything' and the Supreme Court of Texas gave it back to them.
>>>>>>> So, in other words, they got to take everything?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why is the Episcopal Church suing the Episcopal Diocese? Aren't they
>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the same side? I would think the Episcopal Church or Diocese would 
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>> suing
>>>>>>> the breakaway folks...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 6:00 PM, "Lynn Ronkainen" <
>>>>>> ichthys89 at comcast.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> The conservatives 'left' wanting to 'take everything'.... the
>>>>>> SCourt > > of
>>>>>>> TX gave it back to them... it's still not settled as you can see.
>>>>>> The > TX
>>>>>>> SCourt still fancies that TX is a Republic, IMNSHO...
>>>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I >
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> not a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything 
>>>>>>> You
>>>>>> gave
>>>>>>> me." attributed to Erma Bombeck
>>>>>>>> Thomas Merton writes, "People may spend their whole lives climbing
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> ladder of success only to find, once they reach the top, that the >
>>>>>> ladder
>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> leaning against the wrong wall."
>>>>>>>> "What you seek is seeking you." - Rumi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>>> From: "Grace Cangialosi" <gracecan at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, October 20, 2014 4:54 PM
>>>>>>>> To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] EC v. ED of Ft. Worth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So is this Episcopal Church vs. Episcopal Diocese? Which group are
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> good guys?
>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2014, at 5:26 PM, Roy Murphy <roy.murphy at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> The Episcopal church won in the state district court and the >
>>>>>>>>> appeals
>>>>>>> court
>>>>>>>>>> but the TX Supreme Court ruled in favor of the former bishop of
>>>>>> Ft.
>>>>>>> Worth.
>>>>>>>>>> TEC appealed to SCOTUS. The brief is not a bad argument. It has
>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>> gotten a few amicus curae briefs in support.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> SCOTUS hasn't yet decided whether to grant cert on the case. The
>>>>>>> justices
>>>>>>>>>> will discuss it on 12/31 and decide whether to hear the case, 
>>>>>>>>>> deny
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> request they hear it or hold it over for another conference.
>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 20, 2014 12:26 PM, "Jay Weigel" <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Huh? Details, please.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 12:03 PM, Roy Murphy > >>>>> <
>>>>>> roy.murphy at gmail.com
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> The Supreme Court docket says the case was distributed for the
>>>>>> 10/31
>>>>>>>>>>>> conference. We could hear further news on 11/1. Either grant, >
>>>>>>>>>>> deny
>>>>>> or
>>>>>>>>>>>> relist.
>>>>>>
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