[Magdalen] The Deen controversy

[Jay Weigel]

I spent a couple of years in a (UCC) church-related college. We had more
than our share of PKs, and one of the things I learned about was something
referred to there as "PK Syndrome", which seemed to be the desire of said
PKs to prove that they were indeed NOT the goody-goody types they were
perceived to be. This was often borne out by them being some of the
hardest-drinking, wildest, most foul-mouthed kids on campus. But the real
shock came when one of them, with his two non-PK roommates, was arrested
the summer between my freshman and sophomore years, for robbing a liquor
store. Talk about your major shock! Rather than being kicked out of school,
which would have happened under the previous administration, they were
brought back, forgiven, and readmitted on probation after their trial.
IIRC, since the robbery never actually took place (it was interrupted by
cops before it could actually happen) and was a first offense for all
three, they got off with some kind of probation. Anyhow, they were all
seriously subdued thereafter.

On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Jim Guthrie <jguthrie at pipeline.com> wrote:

> From: Grace Cangialosi
>
>  Oddly enough, I never actually heard anyone say the F-word until I was
>> 29, though I had seen it written on plenty of lavatory stall doors. Someone
>> new to >our therapy group said it, and I literally thought I was going to
>> pass out or throw up. Such power we give words...
>>
>
> I can tell you exactly when  I first heard the F word -- and a bunch of
> other words and phrases not used in polite conversation: second week of
> September 1957.
>
> My friend Timmy and I were on our way home from school -- I was in third
> grade, he was in second grade. We encountered Philip and Richie, on  the
> way home --  they had been dismissed a few minutes earlier from their
> brand-spanking new parochial school -- Our Lady of Peace where their
> parents were now sending them.
>
> Richie decides to give us a spelling test . . . "What does F-U-C- spell?"
> And I answered "Foos." "No the "C" is a hard "C" -- And I uttered the word.
>
> Richie and Philip then took great delight in taunting "You sinned! Ha Ha
> Ha!" as only 6-7 year olds can taunt their peers.
>
> And proceeded to tell us all the other **new** words they'd learned that
> it was "sinful" to say in their second grade class in the RC school.
>
> Some people say there's nothing like a good Catholic education . . .
>
> BTW == the parents of both Phillip and Richie also refused to let them
> play with the rest of the boys in the neighborhood if Peter Guill was
> involved -- Peter's family were Episcopalians, but the particular enmity
> wasthat they were from Puerto Rico and had cousins who were <gasp!> black.
> They were no permitted to attend my eighth birthday party, for example. My
> folks thought that pretty awful, so when my tenth birthday rolled around,
> she kept the guest list a secret, with the party actually held as a picnic
> in the Nassau County Park at Salisbury (now Eisenhower Park), using both
> family cars and another belonging to a cousin so no one would know who all
> was there until it was impossible to "get away."
>
> Another interesting lesson . . .
>
> Cheers,
> Jim Guthrie
>
> Cheers,
> Jim Guthrie
>