[Magdalen] Chicken pox

[Susan Hagen]

Grace, I think the best thing you can do is give gentle guidance and
support for the grandkids as they become adults and able to make their
own choices.  I know you have had to bite your tongue in order to
maintain your relationship with the whole family.  I imagine they have
been shielded from the information they would need in order to make
really informed choices about their own health and the health of their
future children.  You can help with that.

For the first year the psychiatric hospital where I work is requiring
flu vaccines for all staff (except for medical exemptions).  Staff who
refuse will be required to wear masks once flu outbreaks hit our area.
I always get my shot but as one with chronic health conditions am
grateful since I have in the past caught the flu in years when the
vaccine did not provide good immunity.  Because of my asthma I get
wretchedly sick from the flu.  It simply plays hell with staffing and
with the therapeutic programs once it starts moving around the
hospital.

Susan

On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com> wrote:
> Judy, I certainly agree with your last statement.  I have pointed out to my son in the past that there is an old saying that God helps those who help themselves. Also that we could regard doctors and medical information as tools given by God. Nothing has made any impression.
> And it probably sounds as if I've been nagging about this over the years, but that isn't true. I understand that he is an adult and has the right to make the decisions for his family, and although I do worry often about the kids, I seldom say anything unless it seems absolutely necessary.
> Even in this latest situation, I haven't said anything to him. I don't think he knows my d-i-l has told me anything, and I don't want to cause trouble for her. She does keep me informed about things, and I don't want that to stop; I also want her to know she has my support. Fortunately, she also has five sisters, three of whom live in the area, so she has something of a family support system for herself. But she doesn't get to make any family decisions.
> Latest word is that two of the other kids are getting sick. My d-in-l said that my grandson is still running a fever every night and hasn't eaten much "for days," but is smiling today and feeling better.
> I haven't mentioned the fact that after about three days of fever a visit to the doctor is recommended. They don't have family health insurance--don't get me started on that--so the ER is their only option for my d-i-l and the four oldest kids.
>
> I plan to sit down with the two older girls and try to make a case for them to go to the Health Dept. and get vaccinated for everything. It will be relatively inexpensive, and I'll pay, if necessary. They're both over 18, so they wouldn't have to tell my son--though they probably would.
>
> Sorry for going on and on. My daughter just doesn't want to hear about it, figuring there's nothing any of us can do, and I guess I've just been feeling the need to vent. I don't plan to post any more about this. Even I'm getting tired of my whining!
>
>> On Dec 28, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Judy Fleener <fleenerj at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> There are many different reasons for home schooling.  Exceptional athletes
>> can benefit from home schooling.  Generally I disagree with the decision to
>> home school because I believe so strongly in the need for good public
>> education.  I know there are valid exceptions.
>>
>> I truly believe that Grace's grandchildren have been fortunate because
>> other people's children are being vaccinated and not because of any
>> protection from God.
>> Judy.
>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> MIT has a lot of that among non-homeschooled students, I believe, so it's
>>> hardly a fair comparison. It's a school with a rigorous curriculum and a
>>> stifling atmosphere, from all I've heard. There are homeschooled students
>>> doing very well at a lot of other places, including Harvard right next
>>> door.
>>>
>>> Tennessee had its first homeschooled female basketball player several years
>>> ago. Taber Spani graduated with honors while playing on one of the top
>>> teams in the country.
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Dec 28, 2015 at 6:30 AM, ME Michaud <michaudme at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> AFAIK all the colleges and universities here require proof of
>>> immunization.
>>>>
>>>> About home schooling: I dealt with at least a dozen of those students
>>> when
>>>> I was at MIT. Not one of them made it through the freshman year. A couple
>>>> of spectacular breakdowns, a couple of sad collapses, at least one
>>> suicide
>>>> IIRC. So terribly sad. Believe me, if they're not fitting in well in high
>>>> school, college might actually be much, much worse.
>>>> -M
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Judy Fleener, ObJN
>> Western Michigan



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