[Magdalen] Bishop Cook: Another unfortunate piece of the story

[Sally Davies]

If you drive under the influence, you don't get to blame others for
accidents. It alters the probabilities completely.

I'm puzzled by the "we as a church have a problem with drink" idea. Is that
only in the USA, or elsewhere in the Communion? I'm sure not here.
Anglicans are less likely to be abstinent than other protestant church
members but as a group not more likely to abuse, I'm sure of that.

Perhaps because of the strong evangelical influence in this part of the
world? And also that ideas of social responsibility attach to alcohol abuse
in particular. The entire society has severe problems with alcohol
abuse/dependency, so if Christians are involved with social ministry in a
spirit of love and empowerment (as most churches are), you have to be
sensitive to that.

What I'm not hearing in all this, is more about the qualities that Bp Cook
possessed which influenced others to overlook such an obvious disaster
waiting to happen, despite presumably having at least SOME objectivity.
Other than the speculation about wanting to make her someone else's problem
which sounds exceptionally bleak.

Sally D

On Wednesday, 4 February 2015, Jim Handsfield <jhandsfield at att.net> wrote:

> In addition, she apparently was texting at the time.
>
> Jim Handsfield
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Feb 3, 2015, at 10:31 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > Furthermore, she left the scene for some period of time, variously
> > described as from twenty to forty-five minutes. That's inexcusable.
> >
> >> On Tuesday, February 3, 2015, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> According to the police report--which, I believe was based on eyewitness
> >> accounts--she swerved into the bike lane and hit him from behind. I
> haven't
> >> seen anything to refute that claim. And if she was texting, that would
> be a
> >> very likely consequence.
> >>
> >> On February 3, 2015, at 10:16 PM, "Mahoney, W. Michael" <
> >> wmmah at stoneledge.net <javascript:;> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com
> <javascript:;>
> >> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >>
> >>I
> >>> and a young man is dead because she drove while drunk.
> >>
> >> Do we really know this to be true beyond any doubt?  Could it be that it
> >> was the cyclist's fault, in part or entirely?
> >>
> >> One ought not drink and drive.  That's not the issue.  And by the
> available
> >> evidence, Bishop Cook ought not drink at all.  But that does not mean
> that
> >> she necessarily caused the accident.
> >>
> >> One reason not to drink and drive is that you will almost automatically
> be
> >> presumed to be the cause of any accident in which you are involved.
> >>
> >> It may be that the evidence is clear but I haven't seen it.
> >>
> >> Mike M.
> >>
>