[Magdalen] Epiphany

[Marion Thompson]

There is a lot to be said for working with the readers in an ongoing 
fashion so that they _can_ cope better with Paul.  The Readers and 
Intercessors are my responsibility.   So much depends on their also 
bothering to familiarize themself with the reading and what is being 
said beforehand, not just glancing at it before the service, if that!
Nobody _taught_ me to read well, not at seminary or otherwise.  It comes 
with interest and the desire to do ever better.  There are excellent 
books on the subject.

Marion, a pilgrim   ... today my sail I lift ....

On 1/5/2015 12:17 PM, Jay Weigel wrote:
> Oh, it's NRSV, all right, but the sentences still run on and are hard to
> follow for most people, even though the translation breaks them up for
> readers. You may not think so because of your classes in NT, but put
> yourself in the place of the guys in the pew again, please......and then
> think how hard that is to read for someone to read who *didn't* have the
> benefit of good reader training, which I fortunately did, but which most of
> the readers at Reformation haven't.
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Ann Markle <ann.markle at aya.yale.edu> wrote:
>
>> Wow, one of Paul's most beautiful and joyous and promising readings!  I'm
>> so sorry your translation was a run-on -- not in our NRSV translation!  I'm
>> glad the NRSV did break up some of Paul's run-on sentences!
>>
>> I started out in TN holding HE on the day of the Epiphany, but very few
>> people came (5 or fewer) - so eventually I got the message and eliminated
>> it.  We tried to celebrate both - Epiphany and the Baptism of Christ on the
>> Sunday after, as we had at Trinity in Buffalo.  It worked better.  Epiphany
>> is not a moveable feast, but I've come to realize that many parishes (as
>> did Ian's) "float" it anyway.  Beneficial for teaching purposes, if the aim
>> is to teach about the observance.  Teaching 50 people is better than
>> teaching 5, IMO.
>>
>> Ann
>>
>> The Rev. Ann Markle
>> Buffalo, NY
>> ann.markle at aya.yale.edu
>> blog:  www.onewildandpreciouslife.typepad.com
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The Lutherans of New Market, VA will celebrate Epiphany next Sunday. I'm
>>> finding this church kind of like a snakebelly-ish Episcopal church,
>> maybe a
>>> tad higher than that....we *did* have a Gospel procession on Christmas
>> Eve,
>>> which surprised the heck out of me.
>>>
>>> I read for the first time yesterday and was given kudos by the pastor and
>>> many in the congregation. Didn't do anything different from what I have
>>> always done so I just told them I was trained by the Episcopalians ;->
>> The
>>> second reading was pretty awful, though, one of Paul's run-ons that was
>>> obviously dictated. I always picture his poor beleaguered secretary
>> saying,
>>> "Hold it there, Paul, you're going too fast! I didn't get all that! Let
>> me
>>> catch up!"
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Eleanor Braun <eleanor.braun at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We also have Eucharist on Jan 6.
>>>>
>>>> Plus a potluck dinner.
>>>>
>>>> Eleanor
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>
>>>>> On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:44 AM, flyingfish224--- via Magdalen <
>>>> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>>>>> Ann, my parish celebrates Epiphany on the day
>>>>>
>>>>> Renee
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Ann Markle <ann.markle at aya.yale.edu>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> In the US Episcopal Church we celebrate our holidays (even the
>>>> non-moveable
>>>>>> ones like Epiphany) on the Sunday after the feast.  Not Xmas and
>>>> Easter, of
>>>>>> course.  Glad your celebration was fine, Ian.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ann
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Rev. Ann Markle
>>>>>> Buffalo, NY
>>>>>> ann.markle at aya.yale.edu
>>>>>> blog:  www.onewildandpreciouslife.typepad.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Ian Gomersall <
>>> ian.gomersall at gmail.com
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We had a lovely Epiphany yesterday - we keep it on the Sunday and
>>> find
>>>> that
>>>>>>> works, as several people travel in or have hard working jobs making
>>>> weekday
>>>>>>> festivals difficult.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It also means we are more integrated in the congregation for a
>> major
>>>> feast
>>>>>>> day - children can come easily.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Our evening activity included smoking bishop:
>>>>>>> Have a look at:
>>>>>>>
>> http://stchrysostoms.wordpress.com/2015/01/05/smoking-bishop-at-epiphany/
>>>>>>> *Ian Gomersall*
>>>>>>>