[Magdalen] Epiphany

Tue Jan 6 07:17:07 UTC 2015

Probably due to my ADD, I generally get nothing out of read lessons.  I
need to read and ponder or it's all a waste of time for me. Likewise, I
usually don't get much out of sermons.  One exception was when I was in a
church where the hymns were all put on a big display board, and as the
person gave the lecture, the display board showed bullet points.  Very
effective sermon.

So far as I'm concerned, the readings may as well not even happen.

James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things better
for people coming behind you, and you don’t do it, you're wasting your time
on this Earth.”  -- *Roberto Clemente

On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Mahoney, W. Michael <wmmah at stoneledge.net>
wrote:

> I have heard it said that the mark of a good reader is that after the
> lesson has been read it is the lesson that is remembered and not the
> reader.
>
> Mike M.
>
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Marion Thompson <
> marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > There is a lot to be said for working with the readers in an ongoing
> > fashion so that they _can_ cope better with Paul.  The Readers and
> > Intercessors are my responsibility.   So much depends on their also
> > bothering to familiarize themself with the reading and what is being said
> > beforehand, not just glancing at it before the service, if that!
> > Nobody _taught_ me to read well, not at seminary or otherwise.  It comes
> > with interest and the desire to do ever better.  There are excellent
> books
> > on the subject.
> >
> > Marion, a pilgrim   ... today my sail I lift ....
> >
> >
> > On 1/5/2015 12:17 PM, Jay Weigel wrote:
> >
> >> Oh, it's NRSV, all right, but the sentences still run on and are hard to
> >> follow for most people, even though the translation breaks them up for
> >> readers. You may not think so because of your classes in NT, but put
> >> yourself in the place of the guys in the pew again, please......and then
> >> think how hard that is to read for someone to read who *didn't* have the
> >> benefit of good reader training, which I fortunately did, but which most
> >> of
> >> the readers at Reformation haven't.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Ann Markle <ann.markle at aya.yale.edu>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>  Wow, one of Paul's most beautiful and joyous and promising readings!
> I'm
> >>> so sorry your translation was a run-on -- not in our NRSV translation!
> >>> I'm
> >>> glad the NRSV did break up some of Paul's run-on sentences!
> >>>
> >>> I started out in TN holding HE on the day of the Epiphany, but very few
> >>> people came (5 or fewer) - so eventually I got the message and
> eliminated
> >>> it.  We tried to celebrate both - Epiphany and the Baptism of Christ on
> >>> the
> >>> Sunday after, as we had at Trinity in Buffalo.  It worked better.
> >>> Epiphany
> >>> is not a moveable feast, but I've come to realize that many parishes
> (as
> >>> did Ian's) "float" it anyway.  Beneficial for teaching purposes, if the
> >>> aim
> >>> is to teach about the observance.  Teaching 50 people is better than
> >>> teaching 5, IMO.
> >>>
> >>> Ann
> >>>
> >>> The Rev. Ann Markle
> >>> Buffalo, NY
> >>> ann.markle at aya.yale.edu
> >>> blog:  www.onewildandpreciouslife.typepad.com
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 11:44 AM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>  The Lutherans of New Market, VA will celebrate Epiphany next Sunday.
> I'm
> >>>> finding this church kind of like a snakebelly-ish Episcopal church,
> >>>>
> >>> maybe a
> >>>
> >>>> tad higher than that....we *did* have a Gospel procession on Christmas
> >>>>
> >>> Eve,
> >>>
> >>>> which surprised the heck out of me.
> >>>>
> >>>> I read for the first time yesterday and was given kudos by the pastor
> >>>> and
> >>>> many in the congregation. Didn't do anything different from what I
> have
> >>>> always done so I just told them I was trained by the Episcopalians ;->
> >>>>
> >>> The
> >>>
> >>>> second reading was pretty awful, though, one of Paul's run-ons that
> was
> >>>> obviously dictated. I always picture his poor beleaguered secretary
> >>>>
> >>> saying,
> >>>
> >>>> "Hold it there, Paul, you're going too fast! I didn't get all that!
> Let
> >>>>
> >>> me
> >>>
> >>>> catch up!"
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 11:30 AM, Eleanor Braun <
> eleanor.braun at gmail.com
> >>>> >
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>  We also have Eucharist on Jan 6.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Plus a potluck dinner.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Eleanor
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sent from my iPad
> >>>>>
> >>>>>  On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:44 AM, flyingfish224--- via Magdalen <
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Ann, my parish celebrates Epiphany on the day
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Renee
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>  On Jan 5, 2015, at 10:32 AM, Ann Markle <ann.markle at aya.yale.edu>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> In the US Episcopal Church we celebrate our holidays (even the
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> non-moveable
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> ones like Epiphany) on the Sunday after the feast.  Not Xmas and
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Easter, of
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> course.  Glad your celebration was fine, Ian.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Ann
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The Rev. Ann Markle
> >>>>>>> Buffalo, NY
> >>>>>>> ann.markle at aya.yale.edu
> >>>>>>> blog:  www.onewildandpreciouslife.typepad.com
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 10:10 AM, Ian Gomersall <
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> ian.gomersall at gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  We had a lovely Epiphany yesterday - we keep it on the Sunday and
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> find
> >>>>
> >>>>> that
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> works, as several people travel in or have hard working jobs making
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> weekday
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> festivals difficult.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It also means we are more integrated in the congregation for a
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> major
> >>>
> >>>> feast
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> day - children can come easily.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Our evening activity included smoking bishop:
> >>>>>>>> Have a look at:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  http://stchrysostoms.wordpress.com/2015/01/05/
> >>> smoking-bishop-at-epiphany/
> >>>
> >>>> *Ian Gomersall*
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >
>