[Magdalen] Epiphany

[Grace Cangialosi]

Ann, I apologize for misreading your earlier post. I didn't realize you were just responding to Jay, and I took your comment to indicate that folks who aren't fond of Paul only feel that way because they don't understand him...as more enlightened people do. And I heard that as rather condescending.
Grace

> On Jan 8, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Ann Markle <ann.markle at aya.yale.edu> wrote:
> 
> Grace, it's obvious that mileage does vary on this list - about Paul and
> everything else!  But anyone who doesn't understand might grow in wisdom by
> trying to understand. - and Jay said clearly she DIDN'T understand (why
> Paul got into the canon of scripture).  I always learned (from very wise
> teachers) that it's better to wrestle with scripture and try to better
> understand, than categorically dismiss.  And of course, it's ok to disagree
> with parts of scripture -- I certainly do, even parts of Paul, and so does
> every single person I know, lay or ordained.  I think Jay and I are simply
> having a disagreement about Paul, into which you felt it necessary to
> insert your opinion and take me to task.  Of course, that's allowed, too,
> as differing opinions are what make pub conversation interesting.  It's
> when it gets personal by attributing personal characteristics, moods and
> motivations (Ann Markle is snarky, condescending) that it gets to be time
> to bow out of the conversation and let others have the last word.  Sorry I
> spoke up with a differing opinion - I guess I should have known better.
> 
> Ann
> 
> The Rev. Ann Markle
> Buffalo, NY
> ann.markle at aya.yale.edu
> blog:  www.onewildandpreciouslife.typepad.com
> 
>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:54 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Yes, that's what I thought, too, Ann. Your remark felt very condescending
>> to me. There are many things about Paul's writings that are wonderful, and
>> there are other things that I find offensive. I believe it's possible to
>> understand something and still not like it.  Obviously YMMV.
>> Grace
>> 
>>> On Jan 8, 2015, at 1:33 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Bit o' snark there, don'tcha think?
>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:19 PM, Ann Markle <ann.markle at aya.yale.edu>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Feel bad for folks who don't understand Paul.
>>>> 
>>>> Staunch feminist,
>>>> 
>>>> Ann
>>>> 
>>>> The Rev. Ann Markle
>>>> Buffalo, NY
>>>> ann.markle at aya.yale.edu
>>>> blog:  www.onewildandpreciouslife.typepad.com
>>>> 
>>>> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 1:06 PM, M J [Mike] Logsdon <mjl at ix.netcom.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I sometimes wonder how some, if not almost all, of Paul got into the
>>>>> canon.
>>>>> But that's me.<<<
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lee Hays of the Weavers once said that whenever Paul came into a town
>> he
>>>>> instantly set sex back 20 years.
>>