[Magdalen] US Higher Education

[Jon Egger]

I had a brain fart when I misread Roger's comment as animal testing.  The
KC VA medical center had much animal testing going on in the basement and
in "the trailer" behind the research wing.  One of my co-workers had worked
there and returned to get her RN.  She told me she'd been part of a study
in nephrology, but had to leave when they started doing research on
beagles. :(((

Jay, at the VA there was lots of floating, especially on weekends.  To make
things easier (not) they had all the supply rooms laid out in the same
order...by the central supplies people NOT the nurses.  It drove us nuts
because they had such an odd filing system.  One Thanksgiving morning the
day supply person was refilling the supplies via hand-held scanner.  He
complained to me how hard it was to have to work on a holiday.  I told him,
"Sir, you scan things every day. When we go home in the morning, if our
patients were still alive we know we've done out work."

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Grace & peace,
jon


On Sun, Jan 11, 2015 at 4:42 PM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com>
wrote:

> quoted from Roger S
> Jeffrey Selingo, > formerly Editor of the Chronicle of Higher Education.
> His premise seems
>
>> to be that online and mixed mode education can be more effective than
>> face to face, as well as being cheaper, and that proper credit should be
>> given for this modality of education.
>>
>
> In this age of computers and even faster ways of communicating with a
> group without the group able to interact with each other is taking us down
> a road we will live to regret in education, in business and in any group
> charged with  making decisions... the ability to 'survey' individuals
> within  a group with an email and the finer point of being able to converse
> in a group and modify the discourse and *see* different paths, will never
> happen with out face to face - which *might* be possible with Skype type
> gatherings, but still not the same as the give and take, insight and ideas
> that bloom in group gathered in person.
>
> IMO, of course
> Lynn
>
>
> My email  is changing soon to: houstonKLR at gmail.com
>
>
> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>
> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not
> a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me."
> attributed to Erma Bombeck
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Roger Stokes" <roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2015 12:12 PM
> To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] US Higher Education
>
>  On 11/01/2015 17:30, Brian Reid wrote:
>>
>>> At the two US universities where I have taught, you need not ever attend
>>> a class if you can pass its examinations.
>>>
>>
>> I accept and welcome that.  The credential should recognize what you know
>> at the end of the course.
>>
>> In response to Jay I will say that the author is > A side issue is that
>> there has been too much emphasis on the importance of a college degree and
>> this may not be worth (in the long term) the amount spent on acquiring it.
>> From this side of the pond I think that is a valid issue.
>>
>> Roger
>>
>>