[Magdalen] Please pray for Ascension, Chicago

[James Oppenheimer-Crawford]

How charming that you you recall that.  Thank you for sharing.

James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things better
for people coming behind you, and you don’t do it, you're wasting your time
on this Earth.”  -- *Roberto Clemente

On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 5:28 PM, Marion Thompson <marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
wrote:

> As I recall from Scott's post, the rector has been there nearly a year.
> Hardly just arrived.
>
> Marion, a pilgrim    ... today my sail I lift ....
> On 1/17/2015 3:28 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford wrote:
>
>> I missed that this is about a rector who has just been hired.
>>
>> I have been at one parish since about 1975. In that time we have had a
>> number of rectors, and not one of them ever dismissed anyone when they
>> arrived.
>> The only time a musician left was when the musician needed to move on for
>> some reason.
>> We have had a few parish administrators, and some have been really good
>> and
>> some not so. We have always been happy to get someone to agree to work for
>> us.
>>
>> So the concept of some twit arriving and firing, effective immediately,
>> his
>> parish administrator just struck me as the height of incredible stupidity.
>> If we all worked according to what someone describes as SOP, it would not
>> be long before we would not be able to get anyone to work for us at all,
>> and rightly so.  Only a fool would take a job, knowing that it could end
>> instantly based on some nimrod's whim.
>>
>> If this was the only pattern someone observed, there would be nothing to
>> prevent them concluding that church is toxic.
>>
>> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
>> *“If you have a chance to accomplish something that will make things
>> better
>> for people coming behind you, and you don’t do it, you're wasting your
>> time
>> on this Earth.”  -- *Roberto Clemente
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>  I understand your point more than I did at first David. Were this a
>>> cathedral there might be more chance of retaining status quo in some
>>> areas.
>>> It is always possible that there are other details in the mix unknown by
>>> many. Change IS hard. Being able to see the vision of someone new is
>>> often
>>> difficult especially when it seems incongruent.
>>> Lynn
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 17, 2015, at 12:21 AM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
>>> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 1/16/2015 9:21:50 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> jguthrie at pipeline.com writes:
>>>
>>>
>>> One  would pray for the success of the new direction for the parish,
>>> while
>>> wishing Godspeed to those not part of the new  regime.>>>>
>>>
>>> Not at the cost of diminishing what is probably the top Anglocatholic
>>> liturgy and music in the Midwest.  A specialty parish like  Ascension
>>> is never going to be the cup of tea for every one in the  neighborhood.
>>>
>>> Yes, of course there should be outreach, but there is Evangelical
>>> outreach in the high drama of the Liturgy and the unexcelled quality
>>> of the music, too.  I don't see how any Episcopalian would fail  to
>>> appreciate this aspect of appeal!
>>>
>>> Ascension has always been my idea of ideal worship in the highest
>>> Western Tradition, and I've worshipped there on occasion since
>>> I was a youngster.  That's through the regime of several  rectors.
>>> The idea that someone would come in and screw around with a
>>> legendary worship tradition is very upsetting to me.
>>>
>>>
>>> David Strang.
>>>
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