[Magdalen] Scripture Study Redux

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Mon Jul 27 20:40:12 UTC 2015


Thomas swam the Tiber. 

Jim Handsfield 
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> On Jul 27, 2015, at 4:29 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Indeed. What "faith" does Roberts claim to practice? I've forgotten. I know
> Scalia and Alito are dinosaur Catholics, and I believe Thomas belongs to
> one of the AMIA outfits.
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 4:19 PM, Jon Egger <revegger at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. wrote, “Unfortunately, people of faith
>> can take no comfort in the treatment they receive from the majority today.”
>> 
>> As a person of faith, I resent that he assumptiously speaks for me.
>> 
>> Grace, peace, and grrr,
>> brud
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Jim Guthrie <jguthrie at pipeline.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Learn something new every day -- the Scripture passages used against LGBT
>>> people are called "Clobber Passages."
>>> 
>>> From the moment the Supreme Court ruled last month in favor of a
>>> constitutional right to same-sex marriage, opponents placed the decision
>> in
>>> a very specific analytical frame. Here, they contended, was an egregious
>>> example of secular culture triumphing over religious values and religious
>>> freedom.
>>> 
>>> “Profoundly immoral and unjust,” the United States Conference of Catholic
>>> Bishops said in a statement. The Orthodox Union, the national association
>>> of Orthodox Jewish congregations, declared its “emphatic” and
>> “unalterable”
>>> religious opposition to same-sex marriage. The prominent evangelist
>>> Franklin Graham reiterated that God had created marriage between man and
>>> woman and said, “His decisions are not subject to review or revision by
>> any
>>> man-made court.”
>>> 
>>> In the dissenting opinions in the 5-to-4 vote, justices seemed to
>>> anticipate the battles to come over adherence to the law by individuals
>> and
>>> institutions that doctrinally oppose same-sex marriage. Justice Clarence
>>> Thomas noted the “potentially ruinous consequences for religious
>> liberty,”
>>> while Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr. wrote, “Unfortunately, people of
>>> faith can take no comfort in the treatment they receive from the majority
>>> today.”
>>> 
>>> Yet the discussion of secularism versus religion is incomplete. It
>> ignores
>>> or elides the growing number of theologians and religious scholars in a
>>> range of faiths who, over a half-century, have been assembling and
>>> espousing scriptural arguments in favor of gay rights and ultimately
>>> marriage equality. The debate about same-sex marriage that has gotten too
>>> little attention is the intrareligious one.
>>> 
>>> Well worth the read at:
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/25/us/push-within-religions-for-gay-marriage-gets-little-attention.htmlCheers
>>> ,
>>> Jim
>>> 
>>> "The enemy isn’t liberalism;
>>> the enemy isn’t conservatism.
>>> The enemy, is baloney." - Lars Erik Nelson
>> 


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