[Magdalen] Episcopal panel to look into charges against L.A. bishop - Religion Press Release Services

[Lynn Ronkainen]

thank you for your wise words Tony+.
Lynn

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From: "anthony clavier" <anthonyfmclavier at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 3:03 PM
To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Episcopal panel to look into charges against L.A. 
bishop - Religion Press Release Services

> For Clay Matthews to find cause to send the charges to the Review 
> Committee
> is significant. However the Review Panel may or may not find the charges
> have merit or not to be grave enough to proceed to trial.
>
> I think we must seek to refrain from speculation until the Panel meets and
> reports.
>
> Tony
>
> On Thursday, July 30, 2015, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I've been following this particular situation on FB, and it is not 
>> pretty.
>> The congregation finally appealed to Bishop Clay Matthews at 815, and he
>> has brought the presentment against Bruno. I found myself wondering if
>> Bruno may be showing some signs of dementia. I've always thought of him 
>> as
>> one of the "good guys."
>>
>> > On Jul 30, 2015, at 2:51 PM, "Lynn Ronkainen" <houstonklr at gmail.com
>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>> >
>> > situation with LA bishop moves forward
>> >
>> >
>> http://pressreleases.religionnews.com/2015/07/30/episcopal-panel-to-look-into-charges-against-l-a-bishop/
>> >
>> > I have somewhat followed the progression of this through postings on 
>> > the
>> HoB/D list (house of Bish/deputies) where I am a kibitzer.
>> >
>> > What is lacking, IMO,  is *any* info about the 'why' of the Bishop's
>> decision which leads me to possibly conclude that the bishop has 
>> knowledge
>> supporting his position.  In today's Episcopal world individual
>> congregations are often so far removed from understanding that the 
>> building
>> is held by The Church Corporation, not the parishioners. Most folks 'in 
>> the
>> pew' are not interested or informed about their diocese or our 
>> denomination
>> at the national level, often to the point of abject ignorance. Even on 
>> the
>> HoB/D list I've been amazed to read almost all posts (many by priests)
>> condemning/criticizing the bishop and offering support, which in some 
>> cases
>> is over the top, to the parishioners of this church.
>> >
>> > I'm beginning to have a personal opinion that the problem may lay
>> squarely on the parish which is why the bishop is not 'talking publicly'.
>> Many of the posting priests on the HoB/D should realize that nothing is
>> ever as simple as it might seem in 'the church' (any church/ any denom) 
>> and
>> that often it is better not to air it publicly, which is not to say it
>> won't be eventually or should not be addressed except within the format
>> that has been scheduled - which the parish involved may not know what the
>> panel is or what it involves.
>> > .02
>> > Lynn
>>
>
>
> -- 
> The Rev. Tony Clavier
> Vicar: St. Thomas' Episcopal Church, Glen Carbon IL
> and St. Bartholomew's Episcopal Church, Granite City IL