[Magdalen] Supreme Court

[Charles Wohlers]

You've forgotten one thing - the clergy needs to register the wedding with 
the State. Somehow they have to know that the wedding occurred. Also, the 
clergy needs to be authorized in some fashion by the state. For example, my 
wife can (and has) perform marriages here in Vermont, since she is 
canonically resident here. However, she can't in New York without permission 
both from the appropriate bishop and the State of New York.

Chad Wohlers
Woodbury, VT USA
chadwohl at satucket.com



-----Original Message----- 
From: ME Michaud
Sent: Monday, June 29, 2015 9:12 AM
To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Supreme Court

My understanding is that when clergy marry a couple they are
doing so with a license from the State. That is, all marriages are
civil marriages (though some are blessed by the clergy).

This was brought home to me early at a wedding in which,
after all the wonderful ceremony, the rabbi intoned:

"And now, by the power granted to me by the State of New
Jersey, I pronounce you man and wife."

But maybe that's just here in the USA.

The Mormon spin on this (the Temple marriage) is also instructive.
-M

On Monday, June 29, 2015, Sally Davies <sally.davies at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> As to religious marriages - gay or straight - whilst these have aspects
> that civil marriages wouldn't include, I certainly don't think that those
> of us married under religious rites should aspire to LESS than the ideals
> that Marshall set out for civil marriage.
>
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