[Magdalen] Conscience's clause

[Lesley de Voil]

Agreeing here with Sally that marriage laws in  Australia are
different from those of both South Africa and Great Britain. Our State
Governments are not involved in marriage, although they may pass  laws
regarding legal relationships between same-sex couples, including (as
well as others)  regarding immigration, superannuation and social
security.
Thus we will have to wait until the present Government is removed
before seeing the introduction of a Same-Sex Marriage Bill in Federal
Parliament, unless our Dear Leader has a change of heart and allows
his coalition members a conscience vote on the matter.

Regards
Lesley de Voil

On 6/30/15, Sally Davies <sally.davies at gmail.com> wrote:
>  Hi Martin!
>
> It's been fascinating to me over the years to learn  just how different
> "Anglican" churches are in the different Provinces and nations. In
> particular, the Episcopalian Church which has an interesting history due to
> the "late unpleasantness" of the Georgian era between the nascent USA and
> the English erstwhile rulers (amongst other reasons).
>
> Australia, also represented here, is different too but not in the same way!
>
> I think many people have come to the conclusion that an Established church
> does no favours to either Church or State.
>
>
> Sally D
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, June 30, 2015, Zephonites--- via Magdalen <
> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>
>> Jim
>>
>> As TEC is part of the Anglican Communion as is the C of E church, I
>> assumed
>>  a similarlity with the UK
>>
>> In England, I am required by law to marry any one who lives in my  parish
>> who is single or a widower/widow - or at least allow my church to be used
>> for such a marriage, provided they are pepared to go through the
>> Christian
>> marriage service prescribed. Although I cat as a Registrar in such
>> matter,
>> a
>> Registrar cannot marry people in a C of E church unless he is a Church of
>> Englandn clergyman. In other words, if the Vicar forgets and the
>> Registrar
>> is
>>  one of the guests at the wedding, the Registrar can't step in and take
>> the
>>  wedding!!
>>
>> However if someone has been divorced, if I - as the vicar-t do not agree
>> with marrying divorcees in Church I can use a conscience clause to say no
>> and
>>  not allow my church to be used either.
>>
>>
>>
>