[Magdalen] Kaddish [was Re: RIP Leonard Nimoy

[Kristin Rollins]

That persisted in Ontario much longer. When I was in elementary school,
we said the Lord's Prayer every day. If I found the right info on
Wikipedia, the court ruling that started to change that came in 1988,
about the time I was in seventh grade. I do recall learning the Lord's
Prayer in French, which probably meant that the court ruling (or the
effect trickling down to my school board) was after I started grade
seven (since I was in French immersion classes for half-days in seventh
and eighth grades).

By my time in school, though, O Canada was firmly established as the
Canadian national anthem and God Save the Queen was never sung in
school. (When I was in the school band, we played it for the town's
Remembrance Day ceremony and I sang it with various choirs, both for
Remembrance Day ceremonies and for a diocesan evensong for an
anniversary of the queen's coronation.)

Kristin

-- 
  Kristin Rollins
  kristin at verumsolum.com
  Portsmouth, VA

On Mon, Mar 2, 2015, at 04:35 AM, Allan Carr wrote:
> Things were different in Toronto, Canada, where I grew up during WW2. In
> elementary school (grades one thru eight), we sang the first verse of
> British National Anthem every morning which refers to God in every
> stanza.
> To my astonishment, the last stanza still refers to the
> commander-in-chief
> of the English army during the Jacobite uprising in 1745 (or has it been
> deleted?). He marshaled all his forces on the east coast but Bonnie
> Prince
> Charlie's army, mostly Scots Highlanders, came down the west coast and
> left
> Wade and his forces in disarray. He was replaced by Prince William
> Augustus
> who eventually won the battle of Culloden in one hour. I have no idea why
> Wade is honored rather than Prince William.
> 
> In spite of at least one-third of the school being Jewish kids, I'm sure
> I
> learned the Lord's prayer, memorized a number of psalms, memorized most
> of
> the stanzas to Christmas carols, and even memorized some hymns from the
> Anglican Hymnal at that school. Some patriotic teacher taught us all the
> verses of the anthem which I'd forgotten and had to look up. I always
> really liked the second stanza (confound their politics, frustrate their
> knavish tricks . . . )
> 
> 
> God save our gracious Queen
> Long live our noble Queen
> God save the Queen
> Send her victorious
> Happy and glorious
> Long to reign over us
> God save the Queen
> 
> O Lord our God arise
> Scatter her enemies
> And make them fall
> Confound their politics
> Frustrate their knavish tricks
> On Thee our hopes we fix
> God save us all
> 
> Thy choicest gifts in store
> On her be pleased to pour
> Long may she reign
> May she defend our laws
> And ever give us cause
> To sing with heart and voice
> God save the Queen
> 
> Not in this land alone
> But be God's mercies known
> From shore to shore
> Lord make the nations see
> That men should brothers be
> And form one family
> The wide world over
> 
> From every latent foe
> From the assassins blow
> God save the Queen
> O'er her thine arm extend
> For Britain's sake defend
> Our mother, prince, and friend
> God save the Queen
> 
> Lord grant that Marshal Wade
> May by thy mighty aid
> Victory bring
> May he sedition hush
> And like a torrent rush
> Rebellious Scots to crush
> God save the Queen
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Definitely no prayer in the public schools of Madison, Wisconsin.
> 
> -- 
> Allan Carr