[Magdalen] Kaddish [was Re: RIP Leonard Nimoy

[Roger Stokes]

I have never come across the last two stanzas you quote.  In this less 
bellicose (?) and more generous (?) age the plea to scatter our enemies 
is often omitted and the stanza asking for the nations to be one family 
the wide world o'er substituted.  Most of us this side of the pond 
(including me) can only remember the first stanza, which is generally 
the only one sung, and need to have the words in front of us if we are 
to sing any more - generally only two or three name;y 1, 3 and 4 in your 
version.

Roger

------ Original Message ------
From: "Allan Carr" <allanc25 at gmail.com>
To: "Magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
Sent: 02/03/2015 09:35:56
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Kaddish [was Re: RIP Leonard Nimoy

>Things were different in Toronto, Canada, where I grew up during WW2. 
>In
>elementary school (grades one thru eight), we sang the first verse of
>British National Anthem every morning which refers to God in every 
>stanza.
>To my astonishment, the last stanza still refers to the 
>commander-in-chief
>of the English army during the Jacobite uprising in 1745 (or has it 
>been
>deleted?). He marshaled all his forces on the east coast but Bonnie 
>Prince
>Charlie's army, mostly Scots Highlanders, came down the west coast and 
>left
>Wade and his forces in disarray. He was replaced by Prince William 
>Augustus
>who eventually won the battle of Culloden in one hour. I have no idea 
>why
>Wade is honored rather than Prince William.
>
>In spite of at least one-third of the school being Jewish kids, I'm 
>sure I
>learned the Lord's prayer, memorized a number of psalms, memorized most 
>of
>the stanzas to Christmas carols, and even memorized some hymns from the
>Anglican Hymnal at that school. Some patriotic teacher taught us all 
>the
>verses of the anthem which I'd forgotten and had to look up. I always
>really liked the second stanza (confound their politics, frustrate 
>their
>knavish tricks . . . )
>
>
>God save our gracious Queen
>Long live our noble Queen
>God save the Queen
>Send her victorious
>Happy and glorious
>Long to reign over us
>God save the Queen
>
>O Lord our God arise
>Scatter her enemies
>And make them fall
>Confound their politics
>Frustrate their knavish tricks
>On Thee our hopes we fix
>God save us all
>
>Thy choicest gifts in store
>On her be pleased to pour
>Long may she reign
>May she defend our laws
>And ever give us cause
>To sing with heart and voice
>God save the Queen
>
>Not in this land alone
>But be God's mercies known
>From shore to shore
>Lord make the nations see
>That men should brothers be
>And form one family
>The wide world over
>
>From every latent foe
>From the assassins blow
>God save the Queen
>O'er her thine arm extend
>For Britain's sake defend
>Our mother, prince, and friend
>God save the Queen
>
>Lord grant that Marshal Wade
>May by thy mighty aid
>Victory bring
>May he sedition hush
>And like a torrent rush
>Rebellious Scots to crush
>God save the Queen
>
>
>
>On Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 6:58 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> 
>wrote:
>
>>  Definitely no prayer in the public schools of Madison, Wisconsin.
>
>--
>Allan Carr