[Magdalen] whose theology is this?

Jay Weigel jay.weigel at gmail.com
Wed Mar 4 19:24:45 UTC 2015


Well, it's not funny and he needs to cut it the hell out. My nerves are
frayed enough as it is, thank you very much, Jim.

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 2:05 PM, H Angus <hangus at ctcn.net> wrote:

> Jay,
>
> IMO, I do think Jim (Hi there, Jim!)*is* working extra hard at saying
> offensive things, because he enjoys getting a reaction from us. I suppose
> it's like kicking an anthill and then standing back to watch the commotion.
> He (you, Jim) seems to feel that only by being obnoxious will we take any
> interest in him. But more people, I've noticed, have been simply ignoring
> his remarks, and I think that's reasonable. It's what I generally do.
>
> Jim, if you're listening, I'll bet you are a very intelligent person with
> a lot of very cool knowledge to share, if you ever want to share it. Maybe
> someday, eh?
>
> Heather
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jay Weigel" <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
> To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
> Sent: Wednesday, March 4, 2015 12:09:46 PM
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] whose theology is this?
>
> If your directing that at me, Jim, first of all, I *never* expected ANYONE
> to share a meal with me when I was doing home health.....ever. In fact, I
> studiously tried to avoid people's mealtimes when visiting. But it
> happened.
>
> And second, it's not just me. Ask anyone who's been to a poor country. I've
> had friends who have gone on medical missions, or been in the Peace Corps,
> and they've all reported the same thing, that it's the people who have the
> least to give who are the most willing to give it. My son-in-law, who grew
> up, not dirt-poor, but far from wealthy for his first 12 years in Brooklyn,
> will attest to that also.
>
> To turn that another way, look at the typical paradigm of the wealthy
> families in this country. It's often said, and been shown, that the first
> generation makes the money and the second hoards and flaunts it. The third
> may be somewhat charitable, but it usually isn't until the fourth that they
> really begin to become altruistic in terms of both charity and public
> service. Roosevelts, Rockefellers, now Kennedys......and on the other
> extreme, look at the horrible Walton clan and their second generation. Talk
> about afraid to let go of their money! Sure, they've founded some
> museums....with their NAME all over them.....but what have they done for
> REAL people?
>
> Honestly, Jim, you were always a cynic, but have you been working extra
> hard at it lately?
>
> On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Jim Guthrie <jguthrie at pipeline.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Why is it that the people who have the least are the most apt to be the
> >> first to help? When I was doing home health, it was the poorest people
> on
> >> my route who insisted on sharing their meals, however meager they might
> be
> >>
> >
> > Are they more apt to do this, or do we simply notice it much more when
> > people are obviously poor but share anyway because it seems more
> remarkable
> > than say, a friend picking up the check after lunch?
> >
> > I suspect that most people are generous like this, but we don’t notice it
> > when there's not a seeming disconnect with economic status.
> >
> > And to turn this around, how many times, say, in a situation where one is
> > visiting people in that situation, do we even think to bring a lunch
> along
> > that can be shared?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jim Guthrie
> >
> >
>
>


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