[Magdalen] Baptism refused...

[James Oppenheimer-Crawford]

My niece was all set to be baptized and the guy masquerading as a minister
found out the parents were not people of faith, and were honest enough to
say so when asked. He refused to baptize her.  There were no winners here.
Nobody "repented" and returned to church. So far as I know Anna never did
get baptized. Of course, that's not a problem, since, as I keep telling
folks who worry about this, God takes care of it.

She just graduated from Penn med school, just gave birth to her second
little girl (yep, both in the midst of coping with med school).

James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy

On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com> wrote:

> Jim H>.... I think a wealthy member or two said they’d pull their
> financial support...
>
> This does not need any more context than 'church' to really, REALLY
> irritate me.  It is more offensive to me when church folk do this than what
> the priest/dean has done in this situation. One may be a personal fault(the
> subject line), the other is a sin going both ways, IMO. Huge sigh.
> Lynn
>
> My email has changed to: houstonKLR at gmail.com
>
> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>
> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not
> a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me."
> attributed to Erma Bombeck
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "James Handsfield" <jhandsfield at att.net>
> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2015 11:51 AM
> To: "Magdalen" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Baptism refused...
>
>  I posted a comment on the Episcopal Cathedral of St. Luke, Orlando, FB
>> page expressing my displeasure.  A few minutes ago, I received a response:
>>
>> "Thank you for your comments about Jack’s baptism.
>> Jack’s parents and I have had a very regrettable misunderstanding
>> regarding Jack’s baptism; I and others have reached out to them so that we
>> might resolve the misunderstanding and make this right moving forward.
>> Bishop Brewer will be meeting with Jack’s parents later this week.
>> I don’t want to make additional comments that may be unhelpful to the
>> Bishop’s and Jack’s parents meeting this week.
>> Please give us the opportunity to work through the misunderstanding over
>> the next several days.
>>
>> "Shaping Stones,
>> Anthony P. Clark+
>> Thirteenth Dean
>> Cathedral Church of St. Luke
>> The Cathedral of the Episcopal Diocese of C. Florida”
>>
>> I doubt very much there was a misunderstanding.  I think a wealthy member
>> or two said they’d pull their financial support if he baptized Jack.  Bp.
>> Brewer is now involved.
>>
>> Alleluia!  Christ is risen!
>>
>> James Handsfield
>> jhandsfield at att.net
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  On May 4, 2015, at 12:40 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> This has been all over FB for the past couple of days, and Episcopal
>>> Cafe leads with it today. The Dean of a cathedral in Central Florida
>>> cancelled a baptism three days before it was to take place--after friends
>>> and family had already flown in. The reason? The baby has two fathers, both
>>> members there.
>>>
>>> Now, after being swamped with letters, phone calls and generally bad
>>> press, the Dean says it was all a misunderstanding and is asking everyone
>>> to hold their comments and judgments until after he has met with the
>>> family. He also said the Bishop was involved in the decision--Bishop says
>>> he knew nothing about it until he saw it on FB...........
>>>
>>> Story is on Episcopal Cafe.
>>>
>>
>>