[Magdalen] Right now: Paris.

[thedonboyd at austin.rr.com]

Jay, thanks for coming to my (no doubt undeserved) defense.

Jim's rebuke is merited, and I offer herewith my apology for the post that evoked it.  I still think him mistaken in asserting that I did not "read (understand) what was written," inasmuch as I did read and believe that I well understood what was written--though not necessarily what was intended.  Let me never fall into the error of assuming that those who disagree with or disapprove of what I say must not have understood me.  I am sometimes wrong.  So are those who disagree or disapprove.

As one who has plead for civility from my earliest days on TOL and who fled that forum because of what I perceived as an overabundance of unwarranted acrimony, I am embarrassed by my lapse. 

In my present situation I myself should probably shut up.  We'll see whether I can bear to do that.   

  
---- Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote: 
> Jim O., lay off Don. He has enough problems right now, and IMO can be
> excused if his fuse is just a wee bit short and his language is a little
> not to your taste. If you don't like it, don't read it. When did you get so
> sensitive, anyway?
> 
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:05 AM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Don, I wish you could gain some control over your compulsion to use vile
> > and offensive language. Especially when you didn't read (understand) what
> > was written.
> >
> > Do you really want to go that route?
> >
> >
> > James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> > *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> > except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 6:52 PM, <thedonboyd at austin.rr.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Roger, once again you are more generous, more irenic, and more given to
> > > understatement ("Unfortunately this difference of opinion and consequent
> > > misunderstanding has not always been expressed in the most charitable
> > > terms")than I have it in me to be.  I hope that you are correct. I
> > confess
> > > that my own wish was, pardon the vulgarity, that both James and Jim would
> > > STFU.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---- Roger Stokes <roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com> wrote:
> > > > On 16/11/2015 22:58, Jim Guthrie wrote:
> > > > > Why would you think that I'm appalled by Paris means I think everyone
> > > > > else are moral idiots?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > Jim
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Molly Wolf
> > > > > Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 12:07 PM
> > > > > To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
> > > > > Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Right now: Paris.
> > > > >
> > > > > So your audience -- that is, the Magdalen pub -- contains moral
> > idiots
> > > > > inferior to you?  How flattering.
> > > > >
> > > > > A good homiletic rule is "preach to the people in the pew, not out
> > the
> > > > > back door."
> > > > >
> > > > > Gnarliness does not equal superior wisdom.
> > > >
> > > > I think what we may have here is a misunderstanding that can occur in a
> > > > medium such as this.  There has been some interchange between James O-C
> > > > and Jim G about how to respond to the events in Paris a few days ago.
> > I
> > > > believe both gentlemen have been deeply shocked by what happened that
> > > > night.  Where they appear to differ is in how general they feel this
> > > > revulsion to be, and what one should assume in that regard.
> > > > Unfortunately this difference of opinion and consequent
> > misunderstanding
> > > > has not always been expressed in the most charitable terms.
> > > >
> > > > On a slightly different tack those events came a little closer to home
> > > > today.  I was in a local school where I chair the Governing Body for a
> > > > meeting this morning.  While there I heard that a member of staff had
> > > > been in Paris with his family to celebrate his mother's 50th birthday.
> > > > While the hotel they were in was not attacked there was an alarm and
> > > > lock-down so they had to stay in their room for several hours.
> > > >
> > > > During this time they heard various bangs which they assumed to be
> > shots
> > > > until eventually the police, bearing machine-guns, entered the room
> > > > where they were.  I am not sure of the family's ethnicity but I believe
> > > > the skin hue could be seen as Asian or Middle Eastern.  That was not a
> > > > good position for them to have been in on what was meant to be a
> > > > celebratory weekend.;
> > > >
> > > > Roger
> > >
> > >
> >