[Magdalen] Right now: Paris.

[Marion Thompson]

I wasn't insullted, and this sort of apology is no apology at all, as 
I'm sure you are well aware.

Marion, a pilgrim

On 11/17/2015 10:30 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford wrote:
> I apologize for being annoyed that the members of the list were insulted en
> masse.
>
> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>
> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Jim O., lay off Don. He has enough problems right now, and IMO can be
>> excused if his fuse is just a wee bit short and his language is a little
>> not to your taste. If you don't like it, don't read it. When did you get so
>> sensitive, anyway?
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 17, 2015 at 3:05 AM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
>> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Don, I wish you could gain some control over your compulsion to use vile
>>> and offensive language. Especially when you didn't read (understand) what
>>> was written.
>>>
>>> Do you really want to go that route?
>>>
>>>
>>> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
>>> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
>>> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>>>
>>> On Mon, Nov 16, 2015 at 6:52 PM, <thedonboyd at austin.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Roger, once again you are more generous, more irenic, and more given to
>>>> understatement ("Unfortunately this difference of opinion and
>> consequent
>>>> misunderstanding has not always been expressed in the most charitable
>>>> terms")than I have it in me to be.  I hope that you are correct. I
>>> confess
>>>> that my own wish was, pardon the vulgarity, that both James and Jim
>> would
>>>> STFU.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---- Roger Stokes <roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 16/11/2015 22:58, Jim Guthrie wrote:
>>>>>> Why would you think that I'm appalled by Paris means I think
>> everyone
>>>>>> else are moral idiots?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Jim
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Molly Wolf
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 16, 2015 12:07 PM
>>>>>> To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Right now: Paris.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So your audience -- that is, the Magdalen pub -- contains moral
>>> idiots
>>>>>> inferior to you?  How flattering.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A good homiletic rule is "preach to the people in the pew, not out
>>> the
>>>>>> back door."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gnarliness does not equal superior wisdom.
>>>>> I think what we may have here is a misunderstanding that can occur
>> in a
>>>>> medium such as this.  There has been some interchange between James
>> O-C
>>>>> and Jim G about how to respond to the events in Paris a few days ago.
>>> I
>>>>> believe both gentlemen have been deeply shocked by what happened that
>>>>> night.  Where they appear to differ is in how general they feel this
>>>>> revulsion to be, and what one should assume in that regard.
>>>>> Unfortunately this difference of opinion and consequent
>>> misunderstanding
>>>>> has not always been expressed in the most charitable terms.
>>>>>
>>>>> On a slightly different tack those events came a little closer to
>> home
>>>>> today.  I was in a local school where I chair the Governing Body for
>> a
>>>>> meeting this morning.  While there I heard that a member of staff had
>>>>> been in Paris with his family to celebrate his mother's 50th
>> birthday.
>>>>> While the hotel they were in was not attacked there was an alarm and
>>>>> lock-down so they had to stay in their room for several hours.
>>>>>
>>>>> During this time they heard various bangs which they assumed to be
>>> shots
>>>>> until eventually the police, bearing machine-guns, entered the room
>>>>> where they were.  I am not sure of the family's ethnicity but I
>> believe
>>>>> the skin hue could be seen as Asian or Middle Eastern.  That was not
>> a
>>>>> good position for them to have been in on what was meant to be a
>>>>> celebratory weekend.;
>>>>>
>>>>> Roger
>>>>