[Magdalen] Tightrope?

Charles Wohlers charles.wohlers at verizon.net
Wed Nov 18 21:11:51 UTC 2015


In Massachusetts, the Commonwealth "upgraded" the State Colleges (formerly 
State Teachers Colleges) to Universities just a few years ago, long after 
most other states had done the same. They're not part of the U. Mass. 
system, which has four campuses (main one in Amherst, plus Lowell, Boston & 
Dartmouth). I was working at Bridgewater State when it went from a college 
to a university. Only thing which actually changed was the name - everything 
else was exactly the same as before, but "University" does sound oh so much 
more impressive, doesn't it?

Chad Wohlers
Woodbury, VT USA
chadwohl at satucket.com



-----Original Message----- 
From: Lynn Ronkainen
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 1:02 PM
To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Tightrope?

Scott> Perhaps because no one dared suggest either Ann
Arbor or East Lansing as the central campus and risk the wrath of the
other's people.

I'd have to agree with you... plus I realized after leaving MI, lo those
many years ago ('74) that Uof M has some serious, far-reaching standing
around the US, and so there might have been imagined diminished loss of
that, if it became one of many, even if it remained the leader.  Just a
thought.

Lynn, who moved to Syracuse in '74 and listened to the continuing debate and
criticism of the 'equalization' of the universities there under the SUNY
system... even as they all became known by their location (and possibly
'former' names).

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From: "Scott Knitter" <scottknitter at gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2015 11:50 AM
To: "Magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Tightrope?

> My mom, a graduate of the University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee, calls
> her alma mater UWM and refers to the mother campus as UW-Madison. So
> there. :)
>
> Scott, who wonders why Michigan never developed a statewide system
> like Wisconsin's. Perhaps because no one dared suggest either Ann
> Arbor or East Lansing as the central campus and risk the wrath of the
> other's people.
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:41 AM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>> What was annoying about changing the names of the Wisconsin state 
>> colleges
>> was that "UW-M" was always the distinctive appellation for the University
>> of Wisconsin-Milwaukee, and the change confused everything because now
>> there are TWO "UW-Ms", Madison and Milwaukee. The latter should probably 
>> do
>> what the SUNY schools do and just refer to itself as "Milwaukee", or else
>> should be allowed to do what UT-Memphis did and become the University of
>> Milwaukee.
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 18, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
>> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 11/18/2015 10:32:27 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
>>> charles.wohlers at verizon.net writes:
>>>
>>> "Normal  School" historically means one which trains teachers.  >>>>>>
>>>
>>> And also in Wisconsin.  They then changed from Normal Schools  into
>>> Wisconsin State Teachers' Colleges, and then Wisconsin State  Colleges.
>>> Eventually  the State Legislature simply declared them all to be 
>>> branches
>>> of the
>>> of the University of Wisconsin System.
>>>
>>> This was initially very unpopular in the flagship UW-Madison, but I 
>>> think
>>> everyone has gotten used to the nomenclature.  We now have
>>> UW-Milwaukee, UW-Superior, UW-Whitewater, UW LaCrosse,
>>> UW-Eau Claire, UW-Stout (Menomonee), UW-River Falls, UW-Stevens
>>> Point, UW-Green Bay, UW-Parkside (Racine), UW-Platteville, in  addition
>>> to UW-Madison.
>>>
>>> UW-Milwaukee presently has 28,000 students and grants graduate
>>> degrees on its own, including masters and PhD's.
>>>
>>> Several of the others have student bodies over 10,000.
>>>
>>> Education is big business.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David Strang.
>>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Scott R. Knitter
> Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA 



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