Amen to what Brian said. Molly The man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no other way. -- Mark Twain > On Nov 21, 2015, at 2:27 PM, Brian Reid <reid at mejac.palo-alto.ca.us> wrote: > > >> On 11/21/15 10:53am, Jay Weigel wrote: >> I don't know what it was, > > I do. It was medical in origin. Both of them did the best they could.