[Magdalen] "Failing" parishes--Canada vs. USA

[Grace Cangialosi]

Oops!! I didn't read far enough!! For some reason, I thought you were saying who your interim was, Mike. I'm glad to hear Kathy is still in Luray.

As to your question about a priest in Luray, Jay, I was referring to Scott Dillard, who has retired there. I think he may have supplied at the two churches I couldn't help last month; I had given them his name. He would be a good person for their interim, but I don't know if he'd have the energy. I know I don't.

Sorry for the confusion...

> On Nov 23, 2015, at 11:16 PM, "Mahoney, W. Michael" <wmmah at stoneledge.net> wrote:
> 
> Yup.  Cathy Tibbets.
> 
> Good priest.
> 
> Mike M
> 
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:54 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I thought Luray had a female priest. At least when I looked at their
>> website that was the impression I got. I'm so confused.
>> 
>> 
>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:52 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Do you know his name? What will they do this winter? I wouldn't mind
>> doing
>>> some supply over there, though there is a priest in Luray who could do
>> it,
>>> and he's much closer.
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 10:49 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> They do. The priest that has been doing it has taken a hiatus for the
>>>> winter, saying he's too old to manage the roads. He preached a
>> rip-roarer
>>>> of a sermon on Sunday.
>>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 10:47 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com
>>> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Jay, those parishes have been yoked for at least 30 years. They used
>> to
>>>>> have that crazy, alternating Sunday morning schedule, too.
>>>>> Woodstock-Mt.Jackson-Woodstock. Do they still do that?
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 23, 2015, at 10:34 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don't know how long Beckford Parish in VA (Woodstock and Mt.
>> Jackson)
>>>>> has
>>>>>> been yoked. There are a number of Lutheran and Methodist parishes
>>>>>> hereabouts that are yoked also. It wasn't uncommon among the
>> Methodists
>>>>> in
>>>>>> TN either, but then, it never has been with them, where it was called
>>>>>> "circuit riding" or a "circuit" and lay people picked up the slack.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 9:04 PM, Raewynne Whiteley <
>>> raewynne1 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Re yoking parishes, my observation is that it is doomed to failure,
>>>>> because
>>>>>>> it tends to prioritize building over ministry - they keep the
>>> buildings
>>>>> and
>>>>>>> the administrative structures, but expect a single priest to serve 2
>>> or
>>>>>>> more parishes, and in most cases parishioners expect to get
>> everything
>>>>> they
>>>>>>> had before for half the money.  Which is a recipe for burnout for
>> the
>>>>>>> priest, and doesn't encourage the parish to be realistic about their
>>>>> life
>>>>>>> and ministry.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Clarissa's prayer request led me to wonder about the varying
>> position
>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> TEC vs. the Anglican Church in Canada regarding what are considered
>>>>>>>> "failing" parishes. Marion's recent experience, too, has made me
>>>>> wonder.
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> realize it varies from diocese to diocese, but ISTM that the
>> Canadian
>>>>>>>> church, at least in these instances, is behaving far more like the
>>> RCC
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> abruptly closing these churches or pretty much setting them up to
>>> fail
>>>>>>> (in
>>>>>>>> the case of Marion's) rather than encouraging them along or
>> "yoking"
>>>>>>> them.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Am I seeing things correctly, or is this a misperception?
>>