[Magdalen] Hymnals and Perspective.o

[James Oppenheimer-Crawford]

Hmmm. <so he SAYS>

James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy

On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 4:57 PM, John R Robison <friarjohn00 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> No, the text is right in the Critical edition of Life Together.
>
> It causes quite the cries of outrage from choir members.
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 16, 2015, at 4:07 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dieter has a rather well appointed classroom named after him at Union.  I
> > should think that would be more than enough.
> >
> > The main reason people sing in parts is a simple matter of range.  That
> > really settles it, it seems to me.
> >
> > If all the people cannot sing the melody, one wonders what the lilly pure
> > martyr would have us do. perhaps he wants us to do it his way or shut up.
> > How very 30s-40s German of him.
> >
> > I sorta agree that some need to be "weeded out," as he puts it, but I'd
> > focus on a different grouping. I have always enjoyed singing harmony, as
> it
> > seemed to me to make the sound all the more unified.  Mom always sang the
> > alto parts, although she never joined a choir until after Dad died.
> >
> > I would not wish his ending on anyone -- taken naked into the wintry
> > morning to be hanged, merely because they knew they were losing, and they
> > wanted to kill him so he would not be able to be freed.
> >
> > I wonder if the text is a hoax....
> >
> > James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
> > *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
> > except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
> >
> >> On Fri, Oct 16, 2015 at 10:41 AM, Jim Guthrie <jguthrie at pipeline.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Very Interesting!
> >>
> >> Thanks for passing this along.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Jim
> >>
> >>
> >> From: John Robison
> >>
> >> Some of the reason, I'm told, comes from that noted shabby thinker
> Dietrich
> >> Bonhoeffer:
> >>
> >> "The essence of all congregational singing on this earth is the purity
> of
> >> unison singing – untouched by the unrelated motives of musical excess –
> the
> >> clarity unclouded by the dark desire to lend musicality and autonomy of
> its
> >> own apart from the words; it is the simplicity and unpretentiousness,
> the
> >> humanness and warmth, of this style of singing….There are several
> elements
> >> hostile to unison singing, which in the community ought to be very
> >> rigorously weeded out. There is no place in the worship service where
> >> vanity and bad taste can so assert themselves as in the singing. First,
> >> there is the improvised second part that one encounters almost
> everywhere
> >> people are supposed to sing together…There are the bass or the alto
> voices
> >> that must call everybody’s attention to their astonishing range and
> >> therefore sing every hymn an octave lower. There is the solo voice that
> >> drowns out everything else, bellowing and quavering at the top of its
> >> lungs, reveling in the glory of its own fine organ. There are the less
> >> dangerous foes of congregational singing, the ‘unmusical’ who cannot
> sing,
> >> of whom there are far fewer than we are led to believe. Finally there
> are
> >> often those who will not join in the singing because they are
> particularly
> >> moody or nursing hurt feelings; and thus they disturb the community." ~
> >> Life
> >> Together, Dietrich Bonhoeffer Works, vol. 5, Minneapolis, Fortress
> Press,
> >> p. 67
> >>
> >> As I recall, he's got a line about it in Discipleship and Sanctorum
> >> Communio.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 2:38 AM, Roger Stokes <
> >> roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com
> >>
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 14/10/2015 01:47, Grace Cangialosi wrote:
> >>>
> >>> SE&B??
> >>>>
> >>>> Probably Sung Evensong and Bebediction.
> >>>
> >>> Roger
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >>
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