[Magdalen] Worship leader

[James Oppenheimer-Crawford]

I guess in New York we are influenced by the large Jewish Population.
The Jews have their Torah, which some folks believe means law. It doesn't;
it means guideline.

The diocese says what they want us to do and we don't ignore them, but in
many instances, we pretty much do what seems best to us.
The diocese wants certain things to be done with layreaders, and people pay
attention, but they don't always comply.
The diocese has a policy that the former assistant is not to be called to
be the rector.
And one church. which shall remain anonymous, just went ahead and did it
anyway. Twice.  Both made superb rectors  too.


James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy

On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Jon Egger <revegger at gmail.com> wrote:

> Not too far from this thread, in West Missouri, ONLY priests may anoint.
> Deacons may, but only when a priest is not available to do so, and only
> with the consent of the Bishop or Canon to the Ordinary.
>
> This is the present bishop's prerogative.  It's also contrary to countless
> years and years of deacons being able to do so in this diocese.
>
> The PiC at Old Trinity was not happy with it, as were many presbyters I
> know.  Their reasoning ran along the line of "I busy enough as it is and
> now I can't send my deacon out to anoint someone!"
>
>
> Happy to be retired,
> brud
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Ann Markle <ann.markle at aya.yale.edu>
> wrote:
>
> > There is no more licensing in TEC for lay readers, though IMO they should
> > be trained.  They are called Lectors now.
> >
> > Ann
> >
> > The Rev. Ann Markle
> > Buffalo, NY
> > ann.markle at aya.yale.edu
> > blog:  www.onewildandpreciouslife.typepad.com
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 3:04 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
> > oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > There is something to the idea of licensing.  I notice often that folks
> > > reading the lessons seem never to have ever even seen the material
> > before,
> > > and have no idea how one must speak in order to be understood, and
> > > everybody thinks this is just fine, fine. I used to coordinate the
> > readers,
> > > and if anyone dropped the ball like that, they would be spoken with
> about
> > > ways to do better (after all, nobody ever decided to read badly! They
> > just
> > > don't know).
> > >
> > > I've heard some strange, or even horrible, sermons from supposedly
> > ordained
> > > folks. Seldom from someone who was just invited to speak.
> > >
> >
>