[Magdalen] Homing Pigeons.

[James Oppenheimer-Crawford]

I use the contemporary form, but I will not push it. People next to me of
course have a sort of startle reaction, and this sometimes leads to
discussions and in one case a person started using the gender-free
substitutions I use in the Creeds where appropriate. I know that for some
others, they feel very strongly about the ancient wording as a kind of icon
for them, and one can say what one will, but for the person involved, that
truly is a major matter of importance. Change is hard.

James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy

On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 7:51 AM, Christopher Hart <cervus51 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'm a TRESS-passes guy, but agree that the modern form with sins solves the
> whole problem. In my general experience, however, almost no one uses it.
>
> On Mon, Dec 26, 2016 at 7:24 AM, Marion Thompson <
> marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > We most often do 'sins' and 'sin against us'.
> >
> > Marion, a pilgrim
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/25/2016 11:56 PM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> In a message dated 12/25/2016 9:56:32 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> >> marionwhitevale at gmail.com writes:
> >>
> >> Really?   Come to Canada.  I'm gradually being  dragged into that
> >> pronunciation, or at least equal weight Tress-pass,  having been a
> >> lifelong TRESS- p'sser.  (What a crazy conversation  this
> >> is!)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>     Presbyterians avoid the whole subject by substituting "debts"
> >> and "debtors."
> >>       David S.
> >> .
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher Hart
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