[Magdalen] Voter ID

[ROGER STOKES]

When I raised this topic today I thought I might start a conversation but I didn't realize just what a hare I would start running. The point is, as some have observed, that its effect is discriminatory. When I get back home I intend to raise this issue with my Member of Parliament, citing the Equality Act and that it is indirectly discriminatory. A lot of people do not have a utility or bank account statement in their name (think wives for example) and may well not have a driver's licence. 

Michael Bishop is a fellow UK citizen but he has said previously that he does not have a passport and his driver's licence may well not include photo ID (a requirement that only came in for those moving after June 1999). If he were married then his spouse might have problems as utility bills, etc would be in his name.
The bottom line is that this is not a real problem whereas absentee or postal voting has far more potential for fraud.
Roger
 

    On Wednesday, 28 December 2016, 1:40, Sibyl Smirl <polycarpa3 at ckt.net> wrote:
 

 On 12/27/16 12:40 PM, ME Michaud wrote:
> Are there any other forms of government-issued ID
> besides a driver's license
> and a passport?
>
> I would imagine that loads of people have neither.
> -M
>
> On Tuesday, December 27, 2016, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> It's exactly that, Jay.  And the only form of photo ID they will accept is
>> one issued by the state; even if you have a photo ID badge for work, they
>> won't take that...


Every state has its own rules.  These are Kansas.
I suspect that every state website can give you something like this.

Kansas Secretary of State | www.sos.ks.gov | www.gotVoterID.com | 
www.voteKS.org
Kris W. Kobach election at sos.ks.gov | (800) 262-VOTE (8683)
Photographic Identification
Frequently Asked Questions
www.gotVoterID.com
1. Which of these photo ID documents not specifically listed in the 
Secure and Fair Elections law are valid for voting purposes?
Public school district student ID card Acceptable
Private high school student ID card Not acceptable*
Public school district employee ID card Acceptable
Private high school employee ID card Not acceptable*
Public college/university employee ID card Acceptable
Private college/university employee ID card Not acceptable*
Sheriff ID card (formerly used in Grant County) Acceptable
Sheriff citizens’ academy ID card Acceptable
City library card Acceptable
Emergency management card Acceptable
FRAC (First Responder Authentication Credential) card Acceptable
Retired military ID card Acceptable
Metropolitan transit authority/airport authority Acceptable
County government employee ID with photo and first name only Not acceptable*
*Any photo ID document must have first and last name and photo, and must 
be issued by a municipal, county, state or federal government agency. 
The only exception to the “government-issued” rule is that the law 
allows student ID cards from accredited postsecondary institutions of 
education, which includes private colleges as long as they are accredited.
2. Is a suspended driver’s license acceptable as a photo ID for voting?
Yes. If a person has the physical license in hand but it’s suspended, 
the Division of Vehicles (DMV) will not issue a free nondriver’s ID 
card. If the license was confiscated when it was suspended, the person 
is eligible for a free ID card from DMV if all other requirements are met.
3. If a voter under age 65 has an expired or suspended driver’s license, 
can such voter get a free ID card from DMV in order to vote?
The DMV does not issue nondriver’s identification cards to people who 
have driver’s licenses. If a driver’s license has been surrendered to 
DMV or if it has been confiscated, an ID card may be obtained. Only the 
fee is waived for the ID card and no other requirements are waived, so 
the person will have to provide documentation necessary to obtain the ID 
card.
4. Does “employee badge or identification document issued by a 
municipal, county, state or federal government office” mean “employee 
badge or employee identification”?
No, it means employee badge or another type of identification document 
issued by a government office.
Kansas Secretary of State | www.sos.ks.gov | www.gotVoterID.com | 
www.voteKS.org
Kris W. Kobach election at sos.ks.gov | (800) 262-VOTE (8683)
5. Are pool passes issued by cities considered acceptable forms of photo 
ID for voting?
Yes, a pool pass is acceptable if issued by a city (or other government 
agency), has a name and photograph, and has not expired.
6. What are the voting options for military personnel, serving either 
domestically or abroad?
A military person may:
(1) vote an absentee ballot under the the Uniformed and Overseas 
Citizens Absentee Voting Act (UOCAVA), or
(2) register to vote in Kansas and vote an advance ballot, or
(3) register to vote in Kansas and vote at the polling place.
7. Is it acceptable for a voter to submit a photocopy of such voter’s 
photo ID when voting at the polling place?
Yes.
8. When people apply for or renew their driver’s licenses, they receive 
paper receipts, followed by the plastic cards a week or two later. Are 
the paper receipts acceptable as photo ID?
Yes.
9. What happens if the photo ID is not provided at all, is provided but 
is not valid, or is questionable?
A provisional ballot is issued. The provisional ballot will be counted 
only if the voter submits valid photo ID before the county canvass. 
Depending on the county, the canvass takes place 7-10 days following 
election day (on the Monday or on the 2nd Thursday following the election).
10. If a voter sends applications for advance ballots for more than one 
election at one time and sends only one copy of an ID, is it sufficient?
Yes.
11. Permanent advance voters are exempt from photo ID. Are sick and 
disabled voters exempt?
No. Voters on the permanent advance list are exempt under the law. 
Voters who have “an illness or physical disability or who are not 
proficient in reading the English language” may receive assistance from 
other persons in applying for, receiving and returning their ballots, 
but they are not exempt from the ID requirement.
12. Is photo ID required of advance voters in mail ballot elections?
No. The law does not apply the photo ID requirement to mail ballot 
elections (or to UOCAVA voters).






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Sibyl Smirl
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