[Magdalen] Epiphany

[Lynn Ronkainen]

ditto here, search member...

Sometimes we don't probe enough or think to ask the right or enough 
questions, and sometimes they hide their true intentions, and sometimes 
both... and change is hard for all the players, the parish, the callers, the 
new call...  when it works it's beautiful when it doesn't work it is so very 
hard.

Prayers rising for your church Judy.

Lynn

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When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not a 
single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me." 
attributed to Erma Bombeck
 "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a talk 
by Richard Rohr

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From: "Ginga Wilder" <gingawilder at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2016 5:20 PM
To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Epiphany

> Prayers, Judy. You have my sympathy, empathy and crossed fingers.  I was 
> on
> a search committee that made the wrong choice, but anyone our bishop would
> have accepted was gonna be a wrong choice.
>
> Blessings,
> Ginga
>
> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 1:03 PM, Marion Thompson 
> <marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Oh dear.  Prayers ascending!
>>
>> Marion, a pilgrim
>>
>>
>> On 1/7/2016 10:21 AM, Judy Fleener wrote:
>>
>>> :Please pray that we at St. Paul's, Muskegon have not picked 
>>> incorrectly.
>>> Not only are we experiencing discomfort with a change in liturgical
>>> styles,
>>> but also a seeming inability to get work done in a timely fashion.
>>>
>>> And I was on the search committee.  This priest was not my first choice,
>>> but our first choice refused the position and  several people on the
>>> committee were sold on this candidate.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Roger Stokes <
>>> roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On 05/01/2016 21:04, Clarissa Canning wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Is he a clone type of her, I really loath Bishops who only care about
>>>>> their
>>>>> clergy clones and think all churches should be only run by them.
>>>>>
>>>>> It also ignores the fact that we are (thank God!) different and that
>>>> different worship styles appeal to and nurture different people.  St 
>>>> Paul
>>>> recognized that people differ, and that none are to be thought the 
>>>> worse
>>>> of
>>>> for that.  What works in one place or one church will not necessarily
>>>> work
>>>> in another.  I recall going to a Church Growth seminar over 30 years 
>>>> ago
>>>> where various techniques for growing the parish were put forward. They
>>>> all
>>>> assumed a certain type and size of church, which did not describe where 
>>>> I
>>>> was then ministering.  To the Bishop's surpise I turned it from decline
>>>> to
>>>> growth in what was regarded as an unpromising situation.
>>>>
>>>> Roger
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>