[Magdalen] TEC suspended from Anglican Communion

[Lynn Ronkainen]

...again I take heart that this was only a *gathering* if one is getting 
specific...

L

website: www.ichthysdesigns.com

When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not a 
single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me." 
attributed to Erma Bombeck
 "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a talk 
by Richard Rohr

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From: "Grace Cangialosi" <gracecan at gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 3:50 PM
To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] TEC suspended from Anglican Communion

> Lynn,
> One source today--I don't remember which--said that Welby invited Foley 
> Beach of the ACNA to the party, hoping it would keep the African primates 
> from boycotting the meeting. You're right that ACNA actually has no 
> standing in the AC, and I frankly think it was outrageous that Welby 
> invited Beach.
>
>> On Jan 14, 2016, at 3:36 PM, "Lynn Ronkainen" <houstonklr at gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> from Thinkinganglicans: "We are pleased that Archbishop Foley Beach of 
>> the Anglican Church in North America has played a full part in the 
>> Canterbury meeting of Primates"
>>
>> This is WOW to  me. That the ACNA has played a full part in the meeting, 
>> IF TRUE (and not a leap of verbiage on the author), it is an interesting 
>> and integral part in this whole piece.  I no longer remember the details, 
>> but do not think that they are full members of the AC. I would be 
>> troubled if that came to pass during this 3 years time of reflection.
>>
>> I don not think that Justin or the 'Communion' desires lockstep but 
>> something more, and something better. I believe that this is not a 
>> rejection but a time of space. A lot has happened in 3 years in 'our 
>> church' and in the USA and in the world. Another three years may see 
>> other changes that will continue to inform this time of a different 
>> relationship - we are not 'out' of the communion, we are just not going 
>> to be representing it. I don't see it as a separation or a rejection. It 
>> seems more as a 'time out'.  Some will never find any decision besides 
>> banishment enough. Some may see this time out as enough, some may be 
>> surprised what 2019 may  bring. I hope it will be a time of deep 
>> discernment. Those who probably have already declared that is not 
>> necessary may be playing a waiting game which is not what I believe is 
>> the intent. Some want punishment and already see this as censure and 
>> separation (this post I quoted from), while seems to me a time of being 
>> humbled by 'standing by' while others take positions formerly filled by 
>> TEC. Will it be a time of listening? It can only be time of listening IF 
>> TEC listens too during these three years. I pray that the Communion will 
>> continue to listen as well. I am reminded that when my first child was a 
>> teenager I grasped the concept that some feel listened to ONLY when their 
>> way is given ascent. I do fear that ACNA and others in North America may 
>> spin this beyond what it is meant to be.  I do sincerely hope there is 
>> space to listen to the spirit.
>>
>> I will be eager to read  what I hope will be more balanced reactions to 
>> this in the world press, and more reporting.  I will be interested to 
>> watch TEC react from both  'on high' and from every last person who will 
>> speak about it.  I hope that *we* do not trend/tend toward the 'we don't 
>> need you', as I think that would be bad form on our part.
>>
>> Lynn
>>
>> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>>
>> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have 
>> not a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You 
>> gave me." attributed to Erma Bombeck
>> "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a talk 
>> by Richard Rohr
>>
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>> From: "Jay Weigel" <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2016 2:05 PM
>> To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] TEC suspended from Anglican Communion
>>
>>> They don't want to "walk together". They want everyone else to walk in
>>> lockstep with them.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 2:49 PM, Scott Knitter <scottknitter at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 1:47 PM, Molly Wolf <lupa at kos.net> wrote:
>>>> > Presumably the Anglican Church of Canada will follow.
>>>>
>>>> The GAFCON folks are upset that Canada wasn't sanctioned too.
>>>>
>>>> http://www.thinkinganglicans.org.uk/archives/007169.html
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Scott R. Knitter
>>>> Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA
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