[Magdalen] More USA Today.

[Lynn Ronkainen]

...Whitewater and the email "scandal...

I would rather a public figure lie and keep it buried than try to lie 
themselves out of a jam they were too stupid to plan cunningly enough to 
keep it buried forever. There you have it from my POV.  I'm not so naive 
that I think that very many people in DC or in state government are 
honorable these days, but dishonorable and stupid is a very bad combo in my 
book...  sigh
L

website: www.ichthysdesigns.com

When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not a 
single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me." 
attributed to Erma Bombeck
 "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a talk 
by Richard Rohr

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From: "Molly Wolf" <lupa at kos.net>
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 8:26 PM
To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] More USA Today.

> I don't think Hilary is perfect, nor is her track record error-free, but 
> there seems to be a real sense of paranoia about her, a gut revulsion that 
> I find impossible to understand and that I find queasy-making because it's 
> so irrational. People _hate_ Hilary Clinton, and to us outsiders, it's 
> incomprehensible -- the dark underside of American politics.  We in Canada 
> hated Steven Harper for that same psychic darkness.
>
> The point is that Clinton is exceedingly well qualified and has been 
> vetted six ways from Sunday.  The alternative isn't Bernie; it's Trump, 
> although Trump is busily shooting himself in the foot.  My once-high 
> regard for Bernie has collapsed.
>
> My understanding is that both Whitewater and the email "scandal", like the 
> endless Benghazi enquirer, were more about partisan scandalmongerging than 
> about anything substantial.
>
> Molly
>
> The man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in no 
> other way. -- Mark Twain
>
>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 8:32 PM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ... not because she is a woman but because of her ongoing  behavior ever 
>> since she lived in the Whitehouse. I still can't imagine why we've not 
>> seen any political cartoons likening  'Whitewater' - the Watergate 
>> cover-up of the Clinton White House -  to her email-gate.... which a 
>> federal judge has decreed as of today that those files will now be locked 
>> until the end of November - I read that as - until after the election. 
>> Sigh.
>>
>> Lynn, who really dislikes casting my vote during Prez election years 
>> against the candidate I really can't stand. I've done that too many times 
>> already since '72...
>>
>> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>>
>> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have 
>> not a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You 
>> gave me." attributed to Erma Bombeck
>> "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a talk 
>> by Richard Rohr
>>
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>> From: "James Oppenheimer-Crawford" <oppenheimerjw at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 5:40 PM
>> To: "Magdalen at herberthouse.org" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] More USA Today.
>>
>>> I rest my case.
>>>
>>> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
>>> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not 
>>> preserved,
>>> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 6:30 PM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For me and Hil its trusting Hill herself.
>>>> Lynn
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 5:16 PM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
>>>> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This is the thing which keeps popping up to cast obstacles in Hil's 
>>>> various
>>>> campaign efforts.  People may favor her positions, but they just can't
>>>> quite trust a woman.  It's a very irrational thing.  You can point it 
>>>> out
>>>> and they'll agree and then just go and vote down another good candidate
>>>> just because it's a female.
>>>>
>>>> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
>>>> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not 
>>>> preserved,
>>>> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
>>>> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > The front page of this national newspaper has an article that
>>>> > continues extensively inside about the extra difficulties women have
>>>> > in breaking through into the upper levels of politics, state and
>>>> national.
>>>> >
>>>> > There is the somewhat unusual distrust that seems intrinsic to men
>>>> > but surprisingly to women, too.  A considerable block of voters,  men
>>>> > and women alike do not trust a woman politician.  This is a 
>>>> > difficult
>>>> > handicap for women to overcome who would aspire to these positions.
>>>> >
>>>> > It strikes me as odd with the demonstration of the strong women
>>>> > leaders in Europe for some time.  Witness the "Iron Lady"  Margaret
>>>> > Thatcher in the UK and Angela Merkel, Chancellor of Germany and
>>>> > de facto Prime Minister of Europe.  Who can forget  Milwaukee-born
>>>> > Golda Meier who guided Israel through the Six Day War?
>>>> >
>>>> > If "The Fatherland" can accept a woman leader, why not the USA?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > David Strang.
>>>> >
>