[Magdalen] Next Steps

[Marion Thompson]

“The ideas do resonate, but there is a stigma regarding the word,” he
(Sanders) said. “We went through a McCarthyite period, a Cold War with the
Soviet Union. There is a misperception of what democratic socialism is.”

And that's the shame of it.  Much of what he proposed had wide appeal 
and was far from 'Commie Pinko" ideas that so frighten America.  
Benefits in Tuition, medical care, wages are hardly evil. It's all too bad.

Marion, a pilgrim



On 11/13/2016 4:34 PM, Kate Conant wrote:
> Hillary was most definitely a sad choice that inspired all sorts of
> reactions.  I was told that I was sexist for not wanting her, that there
> was "a special place in hell" for me for not supporting her, that my
> support for Bernie Sanders was "pie in the sky" and a "unicorn" choice
> (likewise with my later vote for Jill Stein).
>
> This basically came down to "us versus them" for a lot of people and was
> very much an anti-establishment vote.  I strongly believe that Ann is
> wrong:  Bernie Sanders definitely could have won, would have won. That is
> not a pundit's statement;  he was the voice in the wilderness but is no
> longer. People don't care about the labels like "democratic socialist" or
> Republican or Democrat anymore.  They care about income inequality and
> health care and education and debt.
>
>
>
> http://www.jta.org/2014/01/14/news-opinion/politics/bernie-sanders-no-longer-a-voice-in-the-wilderness
>
> The Democratic Party leadership has itself to blame:  for their rigid
> support for Hillary, for their condescension toward us Bernie Sanders
> supporters, for their machinations and dependence on big money to support
> neoliberal (Third Way) big-money candidates, and mostly for their gall and
> hubris.
>
> Watch out in 2018:  a number of us will rise up and take our party back or
> create a brand new progressive party.
>
> On another note:  a Greek Orthodox chief of staff has been selected, Reince
> Priebus. :^|
>
>
> Kate
>
>
>
>
>
> "What does the Lord require of you, but to do justice, love mercy, and walk
> humbly with your God?"
> Micah 6:8
>
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Ann Markle <ann.markle at aya.yale.edu> wrote:
>
>> Bernie would have been more of a "hold my nose" vote than Hillary was, for
>> whom I voted proudly and enthusiastically.  Yes, anybody but Trump, so I
>> would have voted for him.  But a democratic Socialist simply could not have
>> won in the US, despite what some pundits say.
>>
>> Ann
>>
>> The Rev. Ann Markle
>> Buffalo, NY
>> ann.markle at aya.yale.edu
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Marion Thompson <
>> marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Too bad the Democrats connived to defeat Bernie Sanders.  The outcome of
>>> the story might have been quite different.
>>>
>>> Marion, a pilgrim   ... today my sail I lift ....
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/13/2016 2:15 PM, Mahoney, W. Michael wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 11:31 AM, James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
>>>> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> America not only is not the greatest country in the world, it is up
>> there
>>>>> for the dumbest country in the world. The information is out there, but
>>>>> people willfully refuse to look at it.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm ashamed of this land, and I deeply regret that I wasted all that
>> time
>>>>> serving in the military to preserve the rights of a few hundred million
>>>>> slimy dirtbags.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jim -
>>>> If 35,000 voters in Pennsylvania and 65,000 voters in Florida had voted
>>>> for
>>>> Clinton instead of Trump, she would now be the President-elect.
>>>>
>>>> If the election had been held three weeks earlier, or were to be held
>>>> three
>>>> weeks later, Clinton might well be the President elect.
>>>>
>>>> If the election were decided by popular vote, Clinton would be the
>>>> President elect.
>>>>
>>>> Now it is true that Trump won the election and that may lead to
>>>> consequences I would rather not ponder.  But he could just as well have
>>>> won
>>>> it from the toss of a coin.  Statistically speaking, the country looks
>>>> just
>>>> the same as it would have if Clinton had won.
>>>>
>>>> I do find it disturbing that Trump received the support of roughly half
>>>> the
>>>> voters.  But I felt that way long before I knew the results of the
>>>> election.
>>>>
>>>> All that said, I am still proud to be an American, still proud to be a
>>>> veteran, and though gloomy about the immediate future, still optimistic
>>>> about the long run.
>>>>
>>>> Mike M..
>>>>
>>>>