[Magdalen] Two questions for the assembled multitude

[Grace Cangialosi]

Scott wrote:
> I guess I don't think there's a "sufficient" level of humility, and I
> don't think anyone is "groveling" when they pray that prayer.

"We are not worthy so much as to gather up the crumbs under Thy table..." Sound like groveling to me. And we've already made confession and received absolution.  If nothing else, it seems out of place at this point in the liturgy.

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>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 1:08 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> My own personal question about the so-called "Prayer of Humble Access" is why the editors of the '79 BCP found it necessary to keep it at all. Seems to me, coming at that point in the liturgy, the Agnus Dei is sufficiently humble without all of the groveling suggested by the PHA.  If I'm presiding at a Rite I service, we never use that prayer.
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> Scott R. Knitter
> Edgewater, Chicago, Illinois USA