[Magdalen] Two questions for the assembled multitude

[Marion Thompson]

A most important word in any version: _Bu__t_  ....

The NZ prayer book contains many gems.  This is lovely.

Marion, a pilgrim



On 11/28/2016 4:19 PM, Susan Hagen wrote:
> I love this line:  But thou art the same Lord, whose property is
> always to have mercy.  Our God is just that kind of God.
>
> The one I really love is this alternative given in the New Zealand prayer book:
>
> Most merciful Lord,
> your love compels us to come in.
> Our hands were unclean,
> our hearts were unprepared;
> we were not fit
> even to eat the crumbs from under your table.
> But you, Lord, are the God of our salvation,
> and share your bread with sinners.
> So cleanse and feed us
> with the precious body and blood of your Son,
> that he may live in us and we in him;
> and that we, with the whole company of Christ,
> may sit and eat in your kingdom.
> Amen.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 2:08 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com> wrote:
>> My own personal question about the so-called "Prayer of Humble Access" is why the editors of the '79 BCP found it necessary to keep it at all. Seems to me, coming at that point in the liturgy, the Agnus Dei is sufficiently humble without all of the groveling suggested by the PHA.  If I'm presiding at a Rite I service, we never use that prayer.
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>> I know, I know...YMMV big time. But I would suggest that the average congregation's fondness for it is coming out of that "We've always done it that way" posture. They're the same folks who insist on having Morning Prayer, Rite I as the main service on Sunday morning at least once a month, preferably twice.
>>
>>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 12:19 AM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote
>>>
>>> Re: Body and Blood.  The order is just customary.  This reminds  me of
>>> pet peeve I have about the '79 Episcopal Prayer Book.  Why was  it
>>> necessary to change the wording of the Prayer of Humble Access
>>> to make sure Episcopalians wouldn't think there are separate  functions
>>> for the Body and the Blood.  Did the prayer book reformers think
>>> Episcopalians were so dumb to think literally: (1) Body = made clean  and
>>> (2) Blood = washing the soul?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> David S.
>>>
>>>
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