[Magdalen] Prayer request --Marion, Nurse Jay, Dr David

[Jay Weigel]

However, stress itself can lead to episodes of irregular heartbeats, as can
smoking (does he?) or alcohol consumption. So there's that.

On Sat, Oct 8, 2016 at 7:02 PM, Marion Thompson <marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Very thoughtful, Sibyl.  No meds involved.
>
> Marion, a pilgrim
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> On 10/8/2016 1:53 PM, Sibyl Smirl wrote:
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>> Prayers continue,
>>
>> but I just thought of something that might be critically relevant, or
>> might just worry you more, but thought that I should pass it on, since I
>> remember it.  When I was in my thirties, just after my divorce and my
>> parents' death, I was "suicidal thoughts" depressed (have always been a bit
>> of a Depressive, secondary to (what I didn't know then was) my Asperger's)
>> I hadn't been wanting to try the "modern" anti-depressants, having heard
>> the bad things as well as the good things, but at that point I was
>> desperate, so I tried one lcalled Tofranil.  I got a heart-irregularity
>> side effect from it, and I was in bad enough shape already that lying in
>> bed at night and listening to my heart do crazy rhythms was really scary,
>> so I stopped it on my own recognizance almost immediately.  (It may have
>> _saved_ my life, actually, because it did cut off the lowest points, even
>> before I noticed the irregularity.)  But the irregular heartbeat went away
>> as soon as I quit it.  Skipping forward to maybe ten years ago, the
>> Psychiatrist at the Mental Health Center suggested that I might want to try
>> a chemically-closely-related antidepressant, and when I told him about my
>> experience with the Tofranil, he fully agreed with me that I shouldn't
>> touch the newer version.  He pointed out that the side-effect that I
>> survived in my thirties might kill me with the first pill in my sixties.
>>
>>
>> On 10/8/16 9:38 AM, Marion Thompson wrote:
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>>> An update on this prayer request:  Yes, stress and more recently coupled
>>> with stomach problems.  So now, having given up the job, he is
>>> unemployed again, which rachets up the poverty anxieties even more. He's
>>> depressed.  I'm depressed.  What's new?
>>>
>>> Marion, a pilgrim
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/16/2016 1:42 PM, Marion Thompson wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is for my son, Chris, for an upturn in his affairs.  He phoned
>>>> this morning. "What's up?" I asked, because there is always something
>>>> up.  "Do we have a history of heart problems in the family?" "No."
>>>> So, for the last long time he has had irregular heart rhythmn.
>>>> "Stress!" I immediately said.  He saw a doctor yesterday and ya-da
>>>> ya-da.  Not clear that he thought to suggest stress, but that's where
>>>> my money is.  That medical exploration isn't over.   His crazy and
>>>> difficult ex, his irresponsible nominal student daughter who's living
>>>> with him and who is a financial drain as well as a worry, his working
>>>> virtually for minimum wage although they keep promising upgrades and
>>>> the possibility of F.T.E., all round and round in an endless cycle.
>>>>
>>>> On the brighter side, he has just made contact with a former colleague
>>>> in the high-end car business and that may well come to something.  He
>>>> has just done two TV auditions and has a call-back for one.
>>>>
>>>> Really, he is so over-due for a positive and permanent turn-around!
>>>> Mothers never stop worrying.
>>>>
>>>> Marion, a pilgrim
>>>>
>>>>
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