[Magdalen] new ways to deliver baby / was-->Re: Prayer request for a safe delivery

[Jay Weigel]

I am aware that they are and do not think this is a good idea. We did not
think it was a good idea when I worked neonatal, and I would guess if you
asked most L&D nurses *anonymously*, they would agree, but they can't say
so for they record because they want to keep their jobs. On the other side,
however, there is a steady but small rise in the use of certified
nurse-midwives and birthing centers where such things don't happen.

In most other first world countries where there is a much *lower* rise in
maternal complications and a correspondingly lower infant mortality rate,
childbirth is not nearly as medicalized. In most European countries, women
can actually *choose* whether or not to have their babies in hospital or at
home and many choose midwives in preference to doctors. In the Netherlands,
the midwife checks in on mom and baby at home for several days following
the birth. Midwives are highly trained and well respected. In Denmark it's
as hard to get into midwifery school as it is to get into medical school!
(I love that the Danish word for midwife translates as "earth mother".)

On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 9:49 PM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Jay, inductions are on the rise everywhere.... I know many young women,
> daughters of friends here and elsewhere who opt for 'scheduling' the
> induction.... they labor in chic rooms, and get drugs to dull the pain...
> seems like life is upside down from 39 years ago when I went 'natural' (for
> the first of all 3) to avoid drugs, particularly for the fetus, and the
> other drawbacks of induction in the '70s....
> Lynn, not sure today's methods are better, but they sure cater to the many
> concerns young women have today about their own bodies : (
>
> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>
> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have not
> a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave me."
> attributed to Erma Bombeck
> "Either Freedom for all or stop talking about Freedom at all" from a talk
> by Richard Rohr
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Jay Weigel" <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 5:56 PM
> To: <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] Prayer request for a safe delivery
>
> TBTG for a safe delivery. Praying that Kit wakes up and latches on well.
>> The early birdies sometimes take a few days!
>>
>> In neonatal we always said that inductions were a primary cause of
>> C-sections. It's pretty much true, especially in the case of early ones.
>> The corollary to that is what a long-time neonatal nurse always said,
>> "Baby
>> no ready, baby no come." Unfortunately, pre-eclampsia sometimes
>> necessitates these things. It's a bearcat. Our Isaak had to be induced
>> because his mom'd blood pressure got iffy, but fortunately he was ready.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 2:15 PM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Such wonderful news!! So glad you are there with your friends and little
>>> Kit!
>>> Lynn
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> www.ichthysdesigns.com
>>>
>>> When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I would
>>> not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, 'I used everything
>>> you
>>> gave me'. attributed to Erma Bombeck
>>>
>>>
>>> On Oct 30, 2016, at 10:47 AM, Susan Hagen <susanvhagen at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Young Christopher Alexander, Kit for short, has arrived safely.  There
>>> were some long and tense hours beforehand.  Julie's labor went on for
>>> hours and failed to progress properly, she did develop pre-eclampsia
>>> and they finally delivered her by C-section.  Even though Kit is
>>> almost 4 weeks early he weighs a respectable 5 pounds 10 ounces, is in
>>> very good medical shape and is allowed to be in the room with his
>>> parents.  His grandmother Karen and I spent most of yesterday sitting
>>> with them and did on grocery run for mandarin orange seltzer, the only
>>> thing Julie was really craving, being still on clear liquids.
>>>
>>> The nurses seem wonderful and are encouraging skin to skin contact.
>>> It's beautiful to see the little fellow snuggled up on his mother,
>>> then his father's chest.  He's not nursing properly yet but they're
>>> working on it and all prospects seem bright.
>>>
>>> Thank you all for your prayers.
>>>
>>> Susan
>>>
>>> > On Fri, Oct 28, 2016 at 12:09 AM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>> > Praying for your friends Susan, and for your travel and presence  with
>>> and for them.
>>> > Lynn
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > www.ichthysdesigns.com
>>> >
>>> > When I stand before God at the end of my life, I would hope that I >
>>> would
>>> not have a single bit of talent left, and could say, 'I used everything
>>> you
>>> gave me'. attributed to Erma Bombeck
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Oct 27, 2016, at 8:23 PM, Marion Thompson > <
>>> marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Prayers for all arising from Port Hope.
>>> >
>>> > Marion, a pilgrim
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On 10/27/2016 7:58 PM, Susan Hagen wrote:
>>> >> My Maryland friends, Julie and Alex, have a baby on the way who is
>>> >> coming sooner than planned.  Very Young Kit was due right after
>>> >> Thanksgiving but Julie's blood pressure has become a problem and she
>>> >> is in the hospital now with plans to begin to induce the delivery
>>> >> tonight.  They have been told it may take a couple of days for the
>>> >> drugs to work and the labor to progress (Eek!).  We are all concerned.
>>> >>
>>> >> I am headed up there tomorrow (Friday).  This was already planned
>>> >> since we were all going to attend another friend's 80th birthday
>>> >> party.  Alex's mom Karen and I will probably be doing a waiting room
>>> >> vigil instead.
>>> >>
>>> >> This pregnancy was somewhat high risk anyway due to mother's age and
>>> >> health.  Please join me in prayers for quiet confidence for them,
>>> >> caring and competent caregivers, and a safe delivery for Julie and
>>> >> Kit.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thank you,
>>> >> Susan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among
>>> you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the
>>> land of Egypt.
>>> Leviticus 19:34
>>>
>>>