[Magdalen] Something we should probably all be praying about (LONG)

[Lynn Ronkainen]

The coverage here on the Houston Chronical was big in Sunday's paper and a few articles all week. They are fairly straightforward vs. sympathetic. The pipeline company is Houston based. 
Lynn 



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On Sep 11, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:

Rachel, Lawrence, and Chris Hayes are only *sort of* mainstream media.
Much as I love them, MSNBC keeps them only because of people like you and
me, who won't watch the rest of their coverage. They get good ratings
because of us, MSNBC's "red meat" audience, the folks who watch "Morning
Joe" and the rest of their abominable stuff, having gone elsewhere by the
time those three come on...probably off to "reality" TV or something. /s

> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Ann Markle <ann.markle at aya.yale.edu> wrote:
> 
> I hope you've since seen Rachel Maddow's and Lawrence O'Donnell's coverage
> of this.  As Mike said, sometimes MSNBC covers it first, and then
> mainstream media pick it up -- like the water crisis in Flint, which
> everyone else was ignoring until Rachel jumped on it.
> 
> Ann
> 
> The Rev. Ann Markle
> Buffalo, NY
> ann.markle at aya.yale.edu
> 
>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 6:50 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Only Huffington Post, of any reasonably "mainstream" media, is covering
> the
>> protest, in their Green section. They're doing a halfway decent job,
>> anyway. Sort of. Here's today's news, *sort of* good: Tribe Wins
> Temporary
>> Halt To North Dakota Pipeline After Heated Protest
>> <http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/north-dakota-pipeline-tribe_us_
>> 57cf3702e4b03d2d4597288f?section=&>
>> 
>> I was wrong about one thing--the graveyard that was bulldozed was just on
>> the edge of the rez, slightly outside the boundaries, and newly
> discovered.
>> The tribe had filed a motion of discovery and a surveyor was to arrive
>> TODAY to survey the boundaries, after which the graveyard would have been
>> presumably designated as untouchable. The oil company knew that. They
>> bulldozed it on Saturday and dug up the bones of the ancestors. Ask
>> yourself.....would they have done that to a WHITE, CHRISTIAN graveyard?
>> 
>> I don't think so.
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 6, 2016 at 10:22 AM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I absolutely agree with you, Jay, as you have probably noticed from my
> FB
>>> posts.
>>> Certainly concern about the impact on water and the environment in
>> general
>>> is very important--both in North Dakota and here in Virginia, where
> there
>>> is also protest against the line--but for me, at least,there's a
> greater
>>> moral and ethical concern.
>>> Once again we are discounting and brutalizing Native Americans; once
>> again
>>> we are ignoring their land rights--never mind that it was their land
> long
>>> before the Europeans arrived.
>>> The actions of the so-called "security" forces are all-too reminiscent
> of
>>> Bull Conner and his thugs during the Civil Rights struggle. I saw a
>> picture
>>> of a little girl who had been bitten in the face by a police dog.
>> Clearly,
>>> so-called law enforcement is hoping to goad the people into violence,
> but
>>> so far that hasn't happened.
>>> Is race an issue here? Absolutely!
>>> Can you imagine what would happen if they tried to put a pipeline
> across
>>> the Gettysburg battlefield?! It would make the Civil War look like a
> tea
>>> party!  Yet the land in ND is every bit as sacred to them as that at
>>> Gettysburg.
>>> I don't have any idea of how to resolve this, but somehow we've got to
>>> reign in Big Oil and the power companies. Dominion Power here in
> Virginia
>>> is just as bad, with their insistence on building unnecessary power
>> plants
>>> in addition to supporting the oil pipeline.
>>> If I had the money, I'd fly to ND and join the protest, but...  I think
>> we
>>> need to pray for a fair and peaceful resolution.
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 6, 2016, at 9:32 AM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> The so-called "mainstream media" is pretty much ignoring this story.
> I
>>>> don't know whether they don't consider it important, whether they are
>>>> afraid of offending Big Oil, or what. About the only outlets that are
>>>> covering it are NPR and some of the progressive ones such as the
>> Lawrence
>>>> O'Donnell show on MSNBC and various shows that are available online.
> It
>>> is,
>>>> however, getting fairly extensive publicity via Facebook and Twitter.
>>>> 
>>>> I'm speaking of the Native American protest of the pipeline across
>> Indian
>>>> land in North Dakota. This is important on a number of fronts, not
> only
>>>> because it is peaceful (strictly enforced rules in the camps against
>>>> alcohol, drugs and firearms) but because of the cooperation among
>> tribes
>>> on
>>>> a scale not seen before, and because of what they are  protesting.
> This
>>> is
>>>> a good account of what is going on there;
>>>> http://www.outsideonline.com/2111206/whats-happening-standing-rock
>>>> 
>>>> "Security forces" in the pay of the oil company attacked the
> protesters
>>>> Saturday with dogs and pepper spray while police stood by watching.
>>> Several
>>>> protesters were injured and had to be taken to hospitals. The
> Standing
>>> Rock
>>>> Sioux Nation has a hearing scheduled for a restraining order against
>> the
>>>> oil company in Federal Appeals Court, but of course the Labor Day
>> holiday
>>>> got in the way of that, and meanwhile the oil company bulldozed
>> ancestral
>>>> graves on Indian land. Yes, you heard that...on the reservation. And
>> the
>>>> Corps of Engineers has admitted there is no "right of eminent domain"
>> to
>>>> that land.
>>>> 
>>>> Here in Virginia people are protesting against a pipeline that would
>> take
>>>> private farmland and also go through national forests and national
>> parks,
>>>> and pretty much for the same reasons.....pipelines have been proven
>>> unsafe.
>>>> They break frequently and pollute the land and most importantly, the
>>> WATER.
>>>> Sneer at Wikipedia if you want, but it's invaluable for this kind of
>>>> thing--here's a list of pipeline accidents *just since 2000*:
>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pipeline_accidents_in_
>>> the_United_States_in_the_21st_century
>>>> 
>>>> Nobody wants their water source polluted, and least of all in the
>>>> water-poor areas of North Dakota and on the reservations. That's the
>> main
>>>> thing our Native brothers and sisters are protesting and we should
> ALL
>> be
>>>> protesting. The other is that once again, treaties are disregarded
> and
>>> here
>>>> comes someone to take their land, this time a big corporation.
>>>> 
>>>> There are some hard questions here, people. Why do big corporations
> get
>>> to
>>>> run over the rights of people to clean water and clean air and
>> unpolluted
>>>> land? Why are they allowed to take land that was given to people *by
>> the
>>>> government*, supposedly "in perpetuity"? Why are peaceful protests
>>> ignored
>>>> by the media? Why are "private security forces" allowed to attack
>>> peaceful
>>>> protesters?
>>>> 
>>>> Oh, and by the way, the protests in Virginia don't get any coverage
>>> either.
>>>> 
>>>> <rant mode off>
>>>> 
>>>> Jay, getting off the soapbox but feeling very strongly about this one
>>> thing
>>>> today
>