[Magdalen] From +Georgia

James Oppenheimer-Crawford oppenheimerjw at gmail.com
Sat Feb 11 21:29:54 UTC 2017


We are having a rerun of Doonesbury, and we are going through that section
where Zonker is in England, having claimed his title, whatever it was.
Zonker in a fancy wig is a hoot.  Zonker, for those deprived ones, is the
character Gary Trudeau invented to throw contemptuous barbs (all in fun) at
the irresponsible and perennially childlike cannabis crowd.
Zonker is invited to the home of a genuine lord of a genuine manor, and he
just does not leave for four months or so.

James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
*“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved,
except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 2:38 PM, Roger Stokes <roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com
> wrote:

> On 11/02/2017 05:57, Mahoney, W. Michael wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 10:48 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> But, Lynn, just look at how much fun we've had while trying to figure it
>>> all out!  And how much we've learned about the various designations for
>>> bishops!
>>>
>>> And it's not just a church thing.  English nobles were often referred to
>> by
>> the place to which their title was fixed.  So, when speaking of Lord
>> Buckingham. for example, one could simply say "Buckingham" rather than
>> using his given or family name. One reason the Shakespeare history plays
>> can be so confusing is that both uses are employed.
>>
>
> They sign their name with that single place name so "Bedford" is the
> signature of the Duke of Bedford, who was the Marquess of Tavistock until
> his father died. He then inherited the senior title while his son succeeded
> to the honorary junior title. The father had four official styles during
> his left. Initially The Hon Henry 'Robin' Russell from birth until his
> fathewr became Marquess when he inherited the title Lord Howland a few
> months later, which he held until he was 13 when his father became Duke of
> Bedford for nearly 50 years, then he was Duke for some months before he
> died and the titles cascaded down again.
>
> Roger
>


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