[Magdalen] P.S. Re: Update

Grace Cangialosi gracecan at gmail.com
Sat Feb 18 14:35:53 UTC 2017


I frequently used to remind my congregation that ESP was not one of my gifts!
And to the excuse that they thought someone else had probably called, I said I would rather have five phone calls telling me than none.
Didn't really helps they'd still get mad if I didn't show up!

> On Feb 18, 2017, at 9:11 AM, Jon Egger <revegger at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ginga wrote: (It does not work unless someone
> from the person's family lets the church know.)
> 
> Preach it. We cannot visit folks in hospital without knowing they are in
> hospital.  It's announced all the time, yet people get no pastoral visits.
> When I was at Old Trinity, the priest and I were the last to know.  :(
> 
> brud
> 
> On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 8:03 AM, Lynn Ronkainen <houstonklr at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> In this morning's brief digest email for "On Being" with Krista Tippet a
>> blurb:
>> The American Conservative
>> Catholics, Orthodox, and the Benedict Option
>> There's a swath of Americans who feel that Christianity has been corrupted
>> and is being marginalized; they feel powerless against the tide of
>> secularism in the 21st century. But, in this eloquent post, Rod Dreher says
>> most people — Catholics, in particular — turn their back on what they have:
>> "Far too many of us treat our patrimony like it’s no big deal. We are
>> ignorant of what we have, and don’t care. The people who are supposed to be
>> teaching it to us failed. And we fail ourselves. Mediocrity is rampant.
>> Unlike many of our Evangelical brethren, we lack zeal. We lack zeal for our
>> own Christian lives, we lack zeal for the Bible, and we lack zeal for
>> teaching the faith to others. We don’t have a sense of community, not like
>> Evangelicals do. Our parishes become little more than sacrament factories
>> or meeting halls for the tribe to plan its ethnic festival. All those
>> sacraments, all that beautiful liturgy, all those profound prayers and deep
>> thought — it means nothing if it does not draw us to a life-transforming
>> relationship with Christ.
>> Thrive Global
>> 
>> Lynn
>> 
>> On Feb 17, 2017, at 10:26 PM, Marion Thompson <marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> God is still there amd worthy to be praised and glorified.. It's  the
>> people who claim to follow him who fall very short and give him a bad name..
>> 
>> Marion, a pilgrim
>> 
>> 
>>> On 2/17/2017 9:30 PM, Molly Wolf wrote:
>>> And why should church survive, except as an odd form of musical theatre?
>>> 
>>> Molly
>>> 
>>> The man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in
>> no other way. -- Mark Twain
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 17, 2017, at 8:53 PM, Marion Thompson <marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I certainly understand that.  When good people do nothing .... where
>> does that place them on that Love scale?
>>>> 
>>>> Marion, a pilgrim
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2/17/2017 8:46 PM, Molly Wolf wrote:
>>>>> I think I'm just about done with church.  If we talk about love and
>> don't do it, what's the point?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Molly
>>>>> 
>>>>> The man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn in
>> no other way. -- Mark Twain
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2017, at 8:43 PM, Marion Thompson <
>> marionwhitevale at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It wasn't meant to.  Sorry if it wasn't helpful in the moment.  I
>> think I was looking for the suggestions you did make in your reply.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marion, a pilgrim
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2/17/2017 8:16 PM, Molly Wolf wrote:
>>>>>>> That capitalized "DO" sounds exasperated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Molly
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn
>> in no other way. -- Mark Twain
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2017, at 7:46 PM, Marion Thompson <
>> marionwhitevale at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What do you want church to DO?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Marion, a pilgrim
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2/17/2017 6:25 PM, Molly Wolf wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Louise, the answer is "both".  There is situational depression,
>> which is a normal response to serious stresses, and there is endogenous
>> depression, the result of neurotransmitters messed up by too much bad
>> stuff, genetics, or some combination.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I called a friend who hauled me out of the pit, and now I'm just
>> pretty seriously pissed off with church.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Molly
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can
>> learn in no other way. -- Mark Twain
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 17, 2017, at 4:59 PM, Louise Laughton <llaug at twcny.rr.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Question, Molly: Is it depression when a person has every reason
>> to be depressed? This isn’t a smart-Aleck crack — it’s a real question. I’m
>> with you on the waiting to see the doctor complaint. It’s terrible when the
>> wait stretches into more than an hour after the app’t time.
> 
> 
> -- 
> If no one has told you that they love you today,
> let me be the first.
> brud


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