[Magdalen] The Media.

[Grace Cangialosi]

Golly, someone last week remarked that we would finally have a "real lady" in the White House!  I guess that will be Ivanka now. "Lady"? Not so much.

> On Jan 12, 2017, at 2:15 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Who are you going to get to verify them? The hookers? The Russian
> government? Not bloody likely. But I'm inclined to believe them.
> 
> Incidentally, someone pointed out yesterday that Trump is no longer wearing
> his wedding ring. Melania has been mysteriously absent and silent since the
> announcement that she would stay in New York. Frankly, if I were her, I'd
> scoop up the kid and the jewelry and hightail it for Europe while I still
> could.
> 
> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 1:09 PM, Eleanor Braun <eleanor.braun at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Grace:  Buzzfeed published the document here:
>> 
>> https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/3259984-Trump-
>> Intelligence-Allegations.html
>> 
>> As Buzzfeed says, these are allegations, and not verified.
>> 
>> Eleanor
>> 
>> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:39 PM, Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Ginga, I didn't know the document had been released to the public. Where
>>> did you find it?
>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 12, 2017, at 11:46 AM, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I believe a great deal of the US future and credibility rests on the
>>>> shoulders of truth tellingm-media in all forms.  My prayer for those
>> who
>>>> set out to do truthful reporting is that their bosses and they,
>>> themselves,
>>>> will be able to choose truth over sensationalism and ratings.  I also
>>> pray
>>>> that some of the more centrist media can avoid 'reframing' Trump's
>> plans
>>>> going forward with good intentions.
>>>> 
>>>> I do not trust Trump at all.  He only knows how to serve himself.  That
>>> is
>>>> narcissism in action.  And, what in God's name is the Russian, Putin
>>> thing.
>>>> 
>>>> I am presently reading the 35 page document.  I believe much of it.
>>>> 
>>>> God have mercy on the USA.
>>>> Ginga
>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 10:48 AM, <sally.davies at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Not to mention the hugely ironic spectacle of the King of Fake News,
>> Mr
>>>>> One-Lie-Every-50-seconds, being apoplectic as he becomes a victim of
>>> same.
>>>>> 
>>>>> News is changing so fast now and is so globalized that it's hard to
>> see
>>> how
>>>>> anyone can do more damage to traditional or so-called "legacy" news
>>>>> outlets, than current market forces and the social media are already
>>> doing.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think that these days we're just so used to instant everything that
>> we
>>>>> can't tolerate the wait for verification. By the time the standard
>> "two
>>>>> independent sources of verification" are established, someone else has
>>> run
>>>>> with the story.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I would have loved to hear what Jim G might have said about this lot!!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sally D - fascinated and horrified in equal measure
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 at 9:27 AM James Oppenheimer-Crawford <
>>>>> oppenheimerjw at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> These folk seem very vicious.  Always angry.  When they're in the
>>>>> minority,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> nasty comThen they got a majority and a president on their side --
>>> still
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> angry. Still vicious.  I get nervous when I think what it would take
>> to
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> make them happy.  I wonder how many of them are so devoted to their
>>> cause
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> that they would cheer as all the liberals were packed into boxcars.
>> I
>>>>> know
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> some are not that bad, of course, but the real question is, how many
>>>>> would
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> brush the Constitution aside if they thought they could, and how
>>> quickly
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> would they start shooting those who were in their way. But then, I
>> had
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> similar feelings with Bush ("Whoever is not for us is against us!!!")
>>> At
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> one point, Hitler just shot a list of anybody who was not on his
>> side,
>>>>> and
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> afterwards, there was nobody to tell him he could not do that. So,
>> I'm
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> nervous.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Scaring the sh*t out of the media is an essential part of this. If we
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> assume the man's not quite as dumb as we wanted to think, maybe this
>> is
>>>>> all
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> a thought out strategy to hijack the country.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And I thought I would just live out my days in quiet retirement. Who
>>> knew
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> we all would be pulled back into the fray just to keep the country
>> from
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> going plumb to hell in a handbasket.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> James W. Oppenheimer-Crawford
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> *“A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not
>>> preserved,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> except in memory. LLAP**”  -- *Leonard Nimoy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 12:09 AM, Cantor03--- via Magdalen <
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> magdalen at herberthouse.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Meryl Streep alluded in her Gold Globes speech to something
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I thought apropos the Trump News Conference today.  Trump was  so
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> hostile to the news media in general and CNN in particular
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> when he suggested the media were behaving as though they were
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> in Nazi Germany.  I was stunned. at how vicious he was.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I pray the media can stand firm over the next four years to get us
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> through the Trump administration.  The media may be our last  great
>>>>> hope.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> David S.
>>