[Magdalen] Where is the Episcopal Church?
Jay Weigel
jay.weigel at gmail.com
Tue Jan 31 03:41:17 UTC 2017
On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 22:25 Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com> wrote:
> I just got a notice that Trump has fired Yates...
>
> And this surprises you exactly HOW? It took Nixon what, 4 years to fire
> Archibald Cox? It's taken Trump 8 days to start a massacre.
>
> > On Jan 30, 2017, at 7:34 PM, Roger Stokes <roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com>
> wrote:
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> >
>
> >> On 30/01/2017 20:06, Scott Knitter wrote:
>
> >> Someone from Germany in a German-language online news discussion asked
>
> >> what happened to the USA's system of checks and balances that is meant
>
> >> to prevent a tyrannical rule by the president. I had no answer and
>
> >> could say only that I had the same question. It seems the time has
>
> >> come for legislators to take whatever actions they can. At least the
>
> >> courts have already been used with some limited success and more
>
> >> lawsuits are being brought.
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> >
>
> > I note also that it is reported that the acting Attorney General (Sally
> Yates) has ordered lawyers not to defend the Executive Order. Admittedly
> she is still in office because President Trump's nominee has not yet been
> confirmed in office but will Jeff Sessions, who already has the distinction
> of having been denied a role as a federal judge because of allegations of
> racism, want his first act (if confirmed) to be to defend an Order that is
> on the face of it racist and arguably unconstitutional?
>
> >
> https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2017/jan/30/trump-travel-ban-executive-order-world-protests-live
> or http://bit.ly/2kjVKxp
>
> >
>
> > In normal times (and I know we are not in normal times) the most
> effective way to change government intentions is to lobby behind closed
> doors before anything is announced. Given that the Executive Order has
> already been published, and apparently revised in the light of foreign
> protests, that is not an option. I also hear that a number of State
> Department Career diplomats are apparently planning to send a cable through
> the dissent channel about this Order. They would point out that it would
> possibly be counter-productive to its declared aim alienate a number of
> other states which are natural allies of the USA.
>
> >
>
> > Presiding Bishop Curry's comments seem to me to be calling President
> Trump to reconsider his action at the same time as individuals around the
> world are demonstrating against this Executive Order and its effect. I know
> the President wants to demonstrate to his base that he will deliver on his
> campaign promises but what we have seen over the weekend is that his
> previous style cannot do that. He needs to listen to informed advice which,
> sadly he seems unwilling to do at present (witness changes in the make-ip
> of the National Security Council).
>
> >
>
> > Roger
>
>
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