[Magdalen] Supreme Court denies Diocese of South Carolina's motions to rehear and recuse

Ginga Wilder gingawilder at gmail.com
Sun Nov 19 21:03:42 UTC 2017


Oh, I'm sorry I am commenting when I said I would not...but it is good to
know that the SC Supreme Court decision of Friday was against the Lawrence
breakaway church!!  This decision was for The Episcopal Church and The
Episcopal Church in SC.  The property, as it presently stands, belongs to
'us!'  A federal case, also in mediation and further set to be tried in
March 2018, if the mediation does not work, will decide the intellectual
property: name, shield, trust funds, etc.  It is looking good.

Ginga

On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 3:57 PM, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com> wrote:

> We now worship in our own space which we rent behind a CPA's office.  Good
> Shepherd is blessed with two architects and a professional construction
> engineer.  They designed and built the interior as a magnificent worship
> space.  Come and see.  Jim Handsfield was here a year or so ago.
>
> Ginga
>
> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Thanks, Catharine.  This slog has been long, arduous, and exhausting for
>> every person on either side.  This decision is a good one.  I saw photos
>> from your convention on Facebook...you are looking great!  Bp John Buchanan
>> retired to South Carolina, so I am familiar with the Quincy settlement.
>> The right people are doing the mediation - a retired federal judge,
>> chancellors from TEC, TECSC and the Lawrence church, plus the two bishops.
>> These are the only people who can be there by order of the judge and is
>> quite a change from the 60 attys Mark Lawrence generally brings with him.
>> I don't know what comes next, but the USSC more than likely would not hear
>> the case.  I am hopeful for the future of The Episcopal Church in SC, and
>> we will all be glad when we can once again call ourselves The Episcopal
>> Diocese of SC!  Watching and waiting has become a way of life for us, but
>> we are closer to the end now that this ruling has come down!!
>>
>> Roger, thanks.  Good Shepherd was delighted to have you celebrate and
>> preach when you visited Summerville.  We depended on supply clergy to take
>> every Sunday for the first year and then every other Sunday when we called
>> a Priest -n-Charge in October 2013.  We now have a 3/4 time P-i-C who is
>> with us every Sunday.  We rented space for worship for 2 and a half years
>> from an African American United Methodist Church.  The generosity of these
>> folks and from churches and clergy from across the church taught us so much
>> about being Christ's servants. (You are correct that I am no longer on the
>> Standing Committee...finished my term last week.
>>
>> Blessings all.
>> Ginga
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 3:14 PM, Roger Stokes <
>> roger.stokes65 at btinternet.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 19/11/2017 19:38, Ginga Wilder wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know you all are burned out on the mess in South Carolina, so I will
>>>> make
>>>> no comments.  Below are several links for you to learn more, if you are
>>>> curious.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Ginga,
>>>
>>> I understand that as a (I believe now former) member of the Standing
>>> Committee of the Episcopal Church in South Carolina and having been subject
>>> to an order to refrain from public comment you have to be circumspect in
>>> what you say. I also recall that the last service I conducted while
>>> nominally a Church of England parish priest (my retirement took effect a
>>> few days later) was with you as guests of an AME congregation so I am far
>>> from burned out on the situation in SC.
>>>
>>> Claiming that a judge was biased against you and calling for her
>>> recusal  after judgement has been handed down strikes me as a claim borne
>>> out of desperation. Perhaps some of the other Justices are members of
>>> independent Churches who are biased against hierarchical Churches such as
>>> TEC. Should they have been denied authority to hear the case? If the
>>> Justices of SCOTUS have any sense they will decline to hear this case at
>>> least until the separate federal case has been heard and appealed at
>>> Circuit level.
>>>
>>> Roger
>>>
>>
>>
>


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