[Magdalen] In South Carolina, it ain't over yet

[Charles Wohlers]

Winter in Massachusetts is nothing like winter in Canada (at least, Ontario 
& Quebec). Here in SE Mass., it typically rains in the winter as much as it 
snows. In the 30+ I've been here, I can remember only one or two winters 
where there was snow on the ground all winter long. The average high here is 
never below freezing. And on the Cape they play golf all winter long.

I see that the Shenandoah Valley is in USDA Zone 7a (yearly low 0 to 5F), 
same as Cape Cod. Here in SE Mass. we're in Zone 6b - yearly low -5 to 0. 
The great majority of years here it never gets below 0F.

Admittedly, it's a lot colder and snowier in Vermont (zone 4a).

Chad Wohlers
East Bridgewater, MA USA
chadwohl at satucket.com


-----Original Message----- 
From: Jay Weigel
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 7:28 PM
To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
Subject: Re: [Magdalen] In South Carolina, it ain't over yet

No disrespect meant, and I love you all, but Massachusetts, like Canada,
has WINTER. And my problems have to do with with the current state of the
USA, otherwise I would be okay right here in the Shenandoah Valley of
Virginia!

On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 5:34 PM, Marion Thompson <marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Our weather is just fine if you stay to the south and away from notorious
> snow belts.  Uruguay is too far from everywhere to have any longterm
> appeal.  Distance being no object, New Zealand is paradise.
>
> Marion
>
>
>
> On 11/25/2017 2:52 PM, Jay Weigel wrote:
>
>> My sentiments exactly, Christopher.
>>
>> Recently I've been thinking Uruguay. It's pretty stable, has an excellent
>> climate, a good soccer team, and doesn't lob missiles at anyone. I think
>> my
>> Spanish would return with regular use. S/O is not so inclined, however. 
>> He
>> was at one time inclined toward the Caribbean countries, but recent
>> hurricanes have changed that.
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 2:44 PM, Christopher Hart <cervus51 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I would love to live in Vermont, in the summertime. In the winter, not so
>>> much. Canada has appeal too, but for the weather.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 2:39 PM, Charles Wohlers <chadwohl at satucket.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> a) Move to Vermont.
>>>> b) Ignore DC.
>>>>
>>>> helpfully,
>>>>
>>>> Chad Wohlers
>>>> Woodbury, VT USA
>>>> chadwohl at satucket.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jay Weigel
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 2:20 PM
>>>> To: magdalen at herberthouse.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] In South Carolina, it ain't over yet
>>>>
>>>> Ginga, I do not recognize my country any more. I honestly wish I could
>>>>
>>> live
>>>
>>>> somewhere else. I'm working as hard as I can for what I believe in, but
>>>>
>>> I'm
>>>
>>>> so TIRED.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 2:17 PM, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Jay, it is a sign of the times across ideals, be they political,
>>>>
>>> cultural,
>>>
>>>> theological, etc.  It is what it is.  The US is in flux, becoming
>>>>> something
>>>>> else.  For me, I pray the outcome will be more progressive.  Trump is 
>>>>> a
>>>>> backlash to that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ginga
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 1:53 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Molly,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Change "their" to "his" and I think you will have it. Think Trump in
>>>>>> religious garb.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jay, much disgusted with these goings-on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Molly Wolf <lupa at kos.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ohfergawdssake....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For Lawrence and cohort, his is about confirmation of their
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> rightness
>>>
>>>> and
>>>>>
>>>>>> legitimacy, I think, but that’s not what the courts are concerned >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> with.
>>>>>
>>>>>> And so no doubt it will prove.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Molly
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The man who carries a cat by the tail learns something he can learn
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> in
>>>
>>>> no
>>>>>
>>>>>> other way. -- Mark Twain
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Nov 25, 2017, at 11:07 AM, Lynn Ronkainen <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> houstonklr at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don’t give this case much of a chance with the Supremes. Prayers
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> continuing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lynn
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Nov 25, 2017, at 8:48 AM, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Friends,
>>>>>>>> Mark Lawrence and his lieutenants have not accepted the SC Supreme
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Court
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> decisions not to recuse Justice Kaye Hearn and not to rehear the
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> property
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> church lawsuit.  They are appealing to the US Supreme Court and
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> have
>>>
>>>> also
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> initiated another case in the lower SC Circuit Court.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FYI, read the announcement from The Episcopal Church in SC here:
>>>>>>>> http://www.episcopalchurchsc.org/news-blog/new-lawsuit-
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> filed-by-disassociated-group
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lord, have mercy.
>>>>>>>> Ginga Wilder
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Christopher Hart
>>>
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>>> Twitter: @cervus51
>>>
>>>
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