[Magdalen] Now Keillor.

Marilyn Cepeda mcepeda514 at gmail.com
Wed Nov 29 19:21:53 UTC 2017


It seems to me we have gone over the top. There would not have been a male
left in my office if they had to meet today’s ultra correct standards. Most
of us saw it as good natured fun and were not threatened...if anything we
gave as good as we got.

While I know some will complain, I loved Angela Landsbury’s statement that
women spend their lives wanting to be attractive to men then cry foul when
men respond.

She said and I say, there is a difference between “sexual banter” and rape
or fiduciary relationships.

But I do think we are far too sensitive.........

Marilyn

On Wed, Nov 29, 2017 at 12:19 PM Louise Laughton <LLaug at twcny.rr.com> wrote:

> We need to separate trivia from real assault. Women my age (80) and even
> many much younger took for granted the way the world was when we were young
> and young middle-aged in the work place. We knew how to play the game,
> escape trouble without angering anybody. And sometimes, I’m sure, it was to
> the relief of the boy/man involved who himself was just playing the game as
> it existed everywhere. This is not to say it was right, but it was the way
> things were, and it was trivia. Not rape. Not child abuse. Not
> doctor-patient abuse. Not clerical abuse of a vulnerable person in the
> congregation. When workplace sexual harassment first entered my life as a
> new term, it was 1980 give or take and in the newsroom where I worked. We
> joked. One woman, like me at that time 40-something, asked of sexual
> harassment, “What do I have to do to get it?” I, at about that time, called
> a man in the art department “Honey, “ as in “That’s just what I had in
> mind, Honey.” He said he’d give me one more chance but any more “Honey” and
> he’d have to file a sexual harassment complaint. In other words, the whole
> thing was a joke. And yes. The girl who got sloshed at a frat party was
> thought to be somewhat responsible for whatever had happened to her.

-- 
Marilyn (Owens, Palmero) Cepeda


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