[Magdalen] Fwd: Re: silence?

Grace Cangialosi gracecan at gmail.com
Mon Oct 16 01:38:30 UTC 2017 

I’d not heard of the Old Rite Orthodox—just the Old Catholics, who, I believe, are in communion with us. The summer I was in Berea the Orthodox campus chaplain, who was a woman, invited us to worship there, and I was surprised to learn that they had closed communion. Up until then I had thought that was only true of the Roman church.

> On Oct 15, 2017, at 6:26 PM, Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> This branch of Old Rite Orthodox are very welcoming to all. They are
> Russian in origin, like the OCA, but though they retain a Russian flavor,
> because they have been, as Fr. Kyrill says, "chased out" of so many places,
> they aren't particular about who comes to worship with them, so long as
> they  accept that God is one in three persons, holy and indivisible. They
> will admit anyone to communion who has been baptized in the name of the
> Trinity. I don't really have to be chrismated to be part of the church.
> 
> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 4:23 PM, Michael Bishop <rev at michaelbishop.name>
> wrote:
> 
>> Good to her from you,Lynn. I realised after I had sent my note to you that
>> it had not gone to the list so had to forward it.
>> Nottinghamshire is very much Robin Hood Country. Years ago I had a year
>> holding the office of chaplain to the High Sheriff of Nottighamshire - the
>> High Sheriff being the office held by Robin Hood's traditional enemy.
>> Sherwood Forest is just a few miles from where I now live. I grew up in
>> Nottigham,
>> 
>> ....
>> ....
>> God bless
>> 
>> Michael Bishop
>> rev at michaelbishop.name
>> 
>>> On 15/10/2017 21:16, Lynn Ronkainen wrote:
>>> 
>>> nice to hear from you Michael!
>>> 
>>> you wrote: I now live in a bungalow in  Nottinghamshire
>>> 
>>> sounds very *Robin Hood*  to my American ears : )
>>> 
>>> Did you know that NYCity is also often referred to as Gotham?
>>> 
>>> Lynn, peeking into the pub and getting back to many tasks at hand.
>>> 
>>> website: www.ichthysdesigns.com
>>> 
>>> When I stand before God at the end of my life I would hope that I have
>>> not a single bit of talent left and could say, "I used everything You gave
>>> me." attributed to Erma Bombeck
>>> 
>>> "Mercy and compassion are more than personal options. They are the
>>> antidotes to that fear and hatred." Mark Singel
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Michael Bishop" <rev at michaelbishop.name>
>>> Sent: Sunday, October 15, 2017 2:57 PM
>>> To: "Magdalen" <magdalen at herberthouse.org>
>>> Subject: [Magdalen] Fwd: Re:  silence?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>>>> Subject: Re: [Magdalen] silence?
>>>> Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2017 20:56:18 +0100
>>>> From: Michael Bishop <rev at michaelbishop.name>
>>>> Reply-To: rev at michaelbishop.name
>>>> To: Marilyn Cepeda <mcepeda514 at gmail.com>
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I am here. For me it has been a time of great change. I retired from the
>>>> stipendiary ministry just a month ago and of course had to move home as
>>>> well - a major change after almost 21 years as rector of my 8 parishes
>>>> in the diocese of Derby (England). I now live in a bungalow in the
>>>> neighbouring county of Nottinghamshire (Diocese of Southwell &
>>>> Nottingham). The parish I live in is Keyworth which is a large village
>>>> to which are yoled the neighbouring small rural parishes of
>>>> Stanton-on-the-Wolds and Bunny. I hope in due course to take up some
>>>> retired ministry in the area - but the rule here is that retired clergy
>>>> are expected to take 6 months out of active ministry after retirement.
>>>> Life seems very strange with no rushing about taking services and it
>>>> will certainly take quite a time to adjust.
>>>> Listsibs may be interested to know that just up the road from me is the
>>>> village of Gotham - presumably the source of the name which passed on
>>>> somehow to Gotham City of Superman fame. This Gotham is however,
>>>> pronounced Goatham. Locally it is a place of which there are many tales
>>>> about the "Wise men of Gotham"
>>>> One tale is that the three wise men of Gotham found a cuckoo. They
>>>> wanted to keep it so they planted a bush round it to stop it leaving -
>>>> but the bird flew out from the top! The local pub is named "The Cuckoo
>>>> Bush"
>>>> There is also a popular rhyme about them:
>>>> Three wise men of Gotham
>>>> went to sea in a bowl
>>>> Had the bowl been stronger
>>>> My tale would have been longer!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> ....
>>>> ....
>>>> God bless
>>>> 
>>>> Michael Bishop
>>>> rev at michaelbishop.name
>>>> 
>>>>> On 15/10/2017 20:40, Marilyn Cepeda wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am here. I am here in Scotland that is. We visited St Columba’s
>>>>> Footsteps, the well, and the coastline of Kintyre Peninsula. One
>>>>> serendipitous unplanned stop was abbey ruins  Saddell Abbey. Beautiful,
>>>>> special places. We are looking for hurricane Ophelia tomorrow so not
>>>>> sure
>>>>> what our plans will be!
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 5:46 PM Jay Weigel <jay.weigel at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm here. I check in a couple of times a day and all I find is that my
>>>>>> gmail is inundated with everything BUT pub posts. I had a crazy week
>>>>>> last
>>>>>> week, starting with the weekend which was consumed with the Page County
>>>>>> Heritage Festival, where we did very well, the equivalent of a good
>>>>>> month
>>>>>> at the gallery, but I managed to get a case of heat exhaustion on the
>>>>>> first
>>>>>> day and felt like @#$%^! the whole time. Then rock club on Monday,
>>>>>> work at
>>>>>> the gallery on Tuesday and Wednesday, and finally I could breathe on
>>>>>> Thursday.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I guess I can now tell that I am attending an Orthodox church in the
>>>>>> area.
>>>>>> It's a very small Old Rite Russian Orthodox Church just up the road in
>>>>>> Mt.
>>>>>> Jackson and I have been attending for a couple of months now and going
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> adult study classes. I feel very much at home there and am giving
>>>>>> serious
>>>>>> thought to being chrismated at some time in the future. The priest,
>>>>>> Father
>>>>>> Kyrill, and his wife, Matushka Dena Theodora, are both former
>>>>>> Episcopalians
>>>>>> who did *not* leave over things like OW or the prayer book, but simply
>>>>>> because they felt drawn to orthodoxy as I have since I was fairly
>>>>>> young.
>>>>>> But I won't leave the Pub!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 8:39 AM, Marion Thompson <
>>>>>> marionwhitevale at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Personally busy up to here.  Give me strength, especially to get
>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>> tomorrow:  weekly volunteer at the free breakfast at a little local
>>>>>>> bar
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> resto 7 to 9 a.m., MP at the rectory at 9:30, funeral and reception at
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 11,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> some time at home to  get cleaned up for a long drive (1 1//2 hrs)
>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> big city for a wine and cheese the Archbishop is hosting for the
>>>>>>> now-defunct Diocesan Chaplaincy Committee of which I was a member for
>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> whole bunch of years, then the long drive home again.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Marion, a pilgrim
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 10/15/2017 8:20 AM, Ginga Wilder wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I haven't had a Magdalen post since Oct 11th.  I have been in
>>>>>>>> Charlotte
>>>>>>>> caring for my daughter-in-law following surgery and have not posted
>>>>>>>> much
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> anything.  She (Christina) is fine.  I also visited Ginny and Barbie
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> Winston Salem, NC where they have recently moved.  Ginny accepted a
>>>>>>>> call
>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>> rector of St. Anne's Episcopal Church there.  Good to be with family
>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>> whom live in NC now, and good to know that I can still drive 600
>>>>>>>> miles
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> three days.  John does the driving in our family but he did not go on
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> this
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> trip.  As for John and me, we wait for the SC Supreme Court to
>>>>>>>> announce
>>>>>>>> whether they will rehear the property case and also to hear the
>>>>>>>> results
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> mediation in both the federal case and the state case.  The Lawrence
>>>>>>>> breakaways have a PR campaign going that is maddening to follow.
>>>>>>>> Frustrating does not come close to covering the feelings I have, but
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> will do for now.  Our 'side' (TEC and TECSC) has chosen not to speak
>>>>>>>> publicly or to rebut what Lawrence, et al are putting out about 'us.'
>>>>>>>> GRR.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Off to church.
>>>>>>>> Ginga
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 15, 2017 at 7:42 AM, Judy Fleener <fleenerj at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Did the list disappear while I was gone?  Is Brian OK? Did Everyone
>>>>>>>> miss
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Samuel Isaac Joseph Schereschewsky
>>>>>>>>> <http://justus.anglican.org/resources/bio/267.html>Day?  It falls
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> wedding anniversary so I remember.  If I manage to say the morning
>>>>>>>>> office I
>>>>>>>>> will remember, too, because it is commemorated by OJN.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> My love to you all.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Judy Fleener, ObJN,SSH
>>>>>>>>> Western Michigan
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>

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