[Magdalen] It's official

[ROGER STOKES]

This side of the pond we have suffragan bishops and diocesan bishops. The word order in TEC usage makes sense as the title "bishop" gives their order within the Church. The qualifier then describes their current role.  This order is important with bishops provisional (which we don't have over here). To reverse the word order to provisional bishop would suggest that the appointment is a probationary one subject to confirmation if they give satisfactory service for a few months. The reality is that it's a more demanding role of sorting out how things need to be arranged in the future.
Roger 

    On Tuesday, 21 August 2018, 2:23, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com> wrote:
 

 Yeah, I know.  We have had much trouble getting accustomed to the weird
terminology.

Ginga

On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 8:44 PM Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com> wrote:

> Actually, when I made the comment about the term, I was referring to the
> strange order of the titles, which we seem to enjoy.  Why not "Provisional
> Bishop" or "Suffragan Bishop," instead of this reverse order affectation (
> which is what it feels like to me)?
> Anyway, I had no idea the term was going to be so long; I thought it was
> just going to be until we could go through an election for a new diocesan.
>
> On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 7:55 PM, Ginga Wilder <gingawilder at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Grace,
> > This is exactly what South Carolina did twice.  First, Charlie
> vonRosenberg
> > was put up by a steering committee that acted as a standing committee (we
> > weren't an official diocese at that time).  All this was done with the
> > permission of the Presiding Bishop.  The convention of newly named TECSC
> > (The Episcopal Church in SC). The second time, a committee of the
> standing
> > committee did a search - closely led by Bp Clay Matthews.  I was on the
> > committee that lifted up one person for the standing committee to vote
> on.
> > We chose Bp. Skip Adams, retired of CNY.  The convention voted
> unanimously
> > for Bp Adams.
> >
> > They are called Bishop's Provisional.  The definition in the Episcopal
> > Church glossary did not fit our situation, nor yours (from what I know of
> > your situation).  So, I don't know why that particular name.
> >
> > Good luck with this...it may well be a very good thing for VA.
> > Ginga
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 7:37 PM Grace Cangialosi <gracecan at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > We just received word from the Diocese that we will be electing a
> Bishop
> > > Provisional (their wording, not mine) at the Convention in November.
> > > Apparently it's the same process as electing an interim rector.  We'll
> > get
> > > one candidate selected by the Standing Committee or whoever to vote on.
> > > The term will be three years, or more, if needed. This feels very
> > strange,
> > > especially after 25 years of stability under Bishop Lee...
> > >
> > > --
> > > Grace Cangialosi
> > > Ruckersville, VA
> > >
> > > *"Not all of us can do great things, but we can do small things with
> > great
> > > love."*
> > > *St. Teresa of Calcutta*
> > >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Grace Cangialosi
> Ruckersville, VA
>
> *"Not all of us can do great things, but we can do small things with great
> love."*
> *St. Teresa of Calcutta*
>